that Holger Stark, Deputiy Editor-In-Chief of Die Zeit gave to Democracy now. [A man whose esprit an joy has left him years ago judging by his public performance on alternative US television. I mean could those eyes of a severly broken and closed up personality, hiding behind professional formalism, lie? I had to find out.]
Moderator: I wanna go to president Biden. In February of 2022 he holds a news conference - a joint one with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and Biden brings up the future of the Nordstream Pipeline. [Clip is being played.]
Biden: “If Russia invades uh that means tanks or troops crossing the uh the the border of Ukraine again, then uh there will be uh we, there will be no longer a Nordsteam 2. We we will bring an end to it.
Journalist: “What do, what, how would you, how will you do that exactly - since the project and control of the project is within Germany’s control?
Biden: “We will uh I promise you we’ll be able to do it.”
Moderator: “We promise you we’ll be able to do it” - your response [Holger Stark]. Holger Stark “Well you can read this in two ways uh you can read this uh in a threat of military action, but also you can read it in a a sense of a political action, diplomatic pressure and I mean we all remember those days, starting with the Trump Administration by the way uh where the US uh government um clearly wanted the Germans to stop with that project to stop nordstream as a pipeline because that pipeline bypassed Ukraine um uh it made Ukraine dispensable um it was a direct connection between Russia and Germany, it was a direct trade of gas between the two countries and it started with in the Trump Administration that they executed a lot of power um diplomatic pressure on on Germany, um so did the Biden Administration in the beginning - but also have in mind Amy, that um later on um President Biden released the sanctions pressure against Germany he cut some kind of political deal with the German government especially with a German chancellor Olaf Schultz - those two guys got along really well and um I read it the way that Biden said when it comes to the worst when Russia is indeed in invading Ukraine, we will make sure with our German partners that this gas transport is no longer existing so it’s not a threat of military action in my in my opinion but a threat to use any diplomatic uh means to stop that…
Well thats the head of Die Zeits Investigative unit, so -- lets factcheck this believe a little, right?
I mean aside from the common knowledge fact, that germany didnt stop the gas flow, russia did. At first.
Enter US-Ukraine Security Dialogue 2021 - Day 1:
starting at 2hours 30 min in with great Ukrainian Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksander Lytvynenko [or as the Focus would put that - Ukrainians Spy chief. Back then of course he was just another fledgling upstart and gladhander in all things “I so wonderful, great event, I believe more support is needed” trying to piggybag off US policy (describing his role in that panel, if you dont believe it, watch it.)], as well as Stephen Blank (Senior Fellow at FPRI’s Eurasia Program) -- you know this FPRI:
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(FPRI, we always source our images from The Office of the President of Ukraine, if we can… Especially when they have nothing to do with the topic we use them to illustrate for… (actually they have to do with the opposite (internal Propaganda) (src: Ukrinform, who else…))
- and greatest US Propagandist in this War of all of them Ben Hodges.
If you dont know Ben Hodges:
and
(0 deaths through drone attacks from Kursk in Sumy in the past 3 months, statistically - 1 a year.)
Also compair and contrast with:
Moderator feeds the expert the ukrainian propaganda line.
King’s College London expert tells him: “Well, there are a couple of military aims, its probably not so much the creation of a buffer zone.”
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that should suffice as a primer, but back to the US-Ukraine Security Dialogue 2021 - Day 1…
Here are some mentions of Nordstream in said US-Ukrainian Security Dialogue:
Ben Hodges at 2:50:00 in:
I do believe that Berlin is the only capital that can influence uh kremlin behavior and unfortunately they have been reluctant to do it. I was appalled like many of you when president Steinmeier, the president of the german federal republic, made this comment about Nordstream 2, that like well - you have to understand you know we’re responsible for the death of millions of russians and uh you know there’s a history here - I couldn’t believe he, I can believe it but i was appalled that he said it and of course it actually was millions of ukrainians, not millions of russians uh that that died, uh during the second world war uh and and so the whole narrative that comes from berlin is is uh unsatisfactory and this is where the united states has got to put pressure on berlin, to put pressure on the kremlin, the french - I’m sorry, uh our oldest ally for the united states but they would sell ukraine and georgia in a minute if it meant improved relationship for them uh with the kremlin and so this is where if the Biden administration is serious about ukrainian sovereignty uh as a priority and if by the administration is serious about working with allies and about working with the european union, then uh there should be so much pressure on paris and [thereby - because Paris was named first] berlin to do more to uh otherwise we won’t be able to do this.
Stephen Blank at 03:09:40 in:
The panelists have identified really where we need to go forward we need to have defense industry reform. The ukrainian defense strategy process needs to be further reformed, put on a NATO standard in practice, not just in rhetoric the united states and europe need to continue to support ukraine and we need to put pressure on our european allies to do so. And I think one way we can do this is to hit, is to take out Nordstrem 2. I’m appalled that they seem to be in an effort to uh allow Nordstream 2 to get by, because it’s great it will offend the germans, quite frankly I’m not upset about offending the germans uh - Mr. Steinmeier showed that too many people in germany have no real understanding of where german interest lies and I think that needs to be brought home to them that you can’t lie in bed with the russians then expect that things are going to get better in europe. This is just an end around so the german business can make a lot of profit, but it gives germany also downstream distribution - eh russia, downstream distribution rights in germany and in central europe - and it undermines ukraine in many different ways. So to conclude my remarks we have just heard very distinguished and knowledgeable speakers tell us what the agenda needs to be, a reform in energy, defense industry, defense planning, usaid to uh ukraine, ukrainian political reform, pressure on europe to support ukraine and u.s diplomatic involvement in a big way in current efforts to find peace in ukraine. I don’t think minsk is going to be salvageable, i think we need something beyond minsk, but it’s not going to happen until this administration weighs in and I think that’s what needs to come next. Thank you.
Nuland:
Berliner Zeitung vom 31.01.2023 Bezug nehmend auf:
Sevim Dagdelen, Linke-Abgeordnete und Mitglied der Parlamentarischen Versammlung der Nato, fordert von der Bundesregierung mehr Aktivität bei der Aufklärung der Anschläge auf die Nord-Stream-Pipelines. Dagdelen sagte der Berliner Zeitung: „Die Bundesregierung muss dringend ihren Willen zur Aufklärung über die Urheberschaft für diesen beispiellosen Angriff auf die deutsche Energiesouveränität unter Beweis stellen und vorantreiben sowie gegenüber Parlament und Öffentlichkeit Rechenschaft über den Stand der Ermittlungen ablegen. Das bisherige Zuwarten Berlins kommt einer Vereitelung der Strafverfolgung gleich.“ Hintergrund der Forderung ist eine Aussage von Victoria Nuland, Unterstaatssekretärin der US-Regierung. Nuland hatte vergangene Woche bei einer Anhörung im US-Kongress zum Anschlag gesagt: „Senator Cruz, genau wie Sie bin ich, und ich denke, auch die Regierung, sehr erfreut zu wissen, dass Nord Stream 2 jetzt, wie Sie gerne sagen, ein Stück Metall auf dem Meeresgrund ist.“
Cruz hatte Nuland gefragt, ob die von ihm vor dem russischen Angriff vorgeschlagenen Sanktionen gegen Nord Stream 2 den russischen Angriff auf die Ukraine verhindert hätten. Dies hätten ihm im Januar 2022 sowohl der ukrainische Präsident Wolodymyr Selenskyj als auch die polnische Regierung damals signalisiert. Nuland sagte, sie glaube, dass das frühzeitige Aus für Nord Stream 2 „Putin nicht gestoppt“ hätte: „Ich glaube nicht, dass wir diesen Krieg verhindert hätten, wenn die Europäer schneller bei Nord Stream 2 tätig geworden wären – obwohl auch ich mir das gewünscht hätte.“ Es sei aber wichtig gewesen, dass „mit dem Tag, da der Krieg begann, die Deutschen die Pipeline gestoppt“ hätten. Dagdelen zu der Aussage: „Die offene Freude der US-Unterstaatssekretärin Nuland über die Terrorattacke ist entlarvend.“
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Sikorski Tweet:
Former foreign minister and now EU lawmaker Radosław Sikorski has caused controversy after posting a tweet many perceived accused the US of sabotaging the Nord Stream pipeline.
Sikorski was foreign minister from 2007 to 2014 and, as an MEP, is now part the EPP group in the European Parliament.
The controversial tweet includes a photo of gas coming out of the damaged Nord Stream pipeline, accompanied by the words “Thank You, USA”.
The tweet has attracted party-wide criticism, including from Sikorski’s colleagues from the Civic Platform (PO). The tweet was also criticised by the ruling Law and Justice (PiS).
“You cannot make such hypotheses, especially when you are a serious politician, a person about whom the public has no doubt that he has some knowledge,” PO lawmaker Borys Budka said on broadcaster Radio Plus. Sikorski “should think more about what he writes,” he added.
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So nowhere in all of this could one see “the special relationship Biden had with Chancellor Scholz” that “allowed them to achieve this through political means”.
Instead, pretty much every person in this whole affair, asserted, that Germany must be pressured, by also putting pressure on France, and EU institutions to make them move, and the people very much concerned with matters of US-Ukrainian Security relationships openly talked about the destruction of the pipeline, and that this might be needed to make germany move - at all -- one of which openly did so in a 2021 (Biden Administration) panel together with the later Spy Chief of Ukraine.
But the head of the investigative team at german newspaper Die Zeit thinks, the Biden statement was all a play to get nordstream removed via diplomatic means (political pressure) -- even when at that moment Bides eyes lit up like a fucking christmas tree (“We will uh I promise you we’ll be able to do it.”), which you know is your normal bodily response when referring to “diplomatic, political pressure campaigns”, made possible, by the incredibly great relationship Scholz had developed with Biden.
I’m not saying more here, just that Holger Stark, Deputiy Editor-In-Chief of Die Zeit IS A FUCKING OPUTRAGEOUS LIAR.
Beyond that - nothing is provable, so far. Well except for the “German formality error that Poland stated, caused them to not be able to take action on arresting the main subject this far, when he was still in Poland of course” - which if you put it together with Sweden and Denmark stopping investigations on Nordstream altogether, because of reasons that never became public -- spell oh so much - proactive pandering to a nation who might not want you to look into this… While at the same time risking your relationship with germany - you know, as you do as fellow members of the European Union. But it was that special kind of relationship, that Biden developed to Chancellor Olaf Scholz, that made all of this possible of course.
Just listen to your german investigative units, you know - the ones at “Die Zeit”, that worked together with The Washington Post to bring you the latest developments.
You know, while the next polish leader (this time the prime minister) reacts in an unconventional way…
Polish leader urges Nord Stream patrons to ‘keep quiet’ as pipeline mystery returns to spotlight
Poland’s prime minister has reacted to reports that revived speculation about who blew up the Nord Stream pipelines in 2022
WARSAW, Poland — Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk on Saturday reacted to reports that revived questions about who blew up the Nord Stream pipelines in 2022, saying the initiators of the gas pipeline project should “apologize and keep quiet.” That comment came after one of his deputies denied a claim that Warsaw was partly responsible for its damage.
The Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday that Ukrainian authorities were responsible for blowing up the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines in September 2022, a dramatic act of sabotage that cut Germany off from a key source of energy and worsened an energy crisis in Europe.
Germany was a partner with Russia in the pipeline project. Poland has long said its own security interests have been harmed by Nord Stream.
“To all the initiators and patrons of Nord Stream 1 and 2. The only thing you should do today about it is apologise and keep quiet,” Tusk wrote on the social media portal X Saturday.
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Well you know, it was that SPECIAL bound, that SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP that Biden had developed with Chancellor Olaf Scholz, that made this all possible that made possible to put this all into place as a political, and not a covert military action.
Vertrauen sie einfach den deutschsprachigen Qualitätsmedien.
