I compel you to never read Schopenhauers “Die Kunst Recht zu behalten”, because after you do, you will henceforth follow arguments, deconstructing purely emotional engagement fluff lines for the audience into what they are, instead of letting them become the most hard hitting applause lines for that audience, each and every time.
You’ll see the direct impact, and the “argumentative value” of those in debates so often, you’ll simpy become outraged, over how well they work.
As in - put “Reason” and “Logic” on your debate societies banner -- then see an audience fill your events, that will eat every emotional gambit thats in the book, hookline and sinker.
So if you see that happening in motion, the correct thing to do is not to attack the person that is literally fingerpuppeting the audience into an emotional release ad hominem, because the audience enjoys that just too much - to be told at that moment that that is whats happening, it is to do what Scott Horton does here:
Of course then you’ll still be fucked over by the organizers of the events narrative structure, on who gets the last argument, and a “moderator” that distinctly embedds in his hour long questions that the Monroe doctrine in the US would be basically a thing of the past.
Now to the lies of the pro government debater:
- You dont count on “we are at war” speeches filled to the brim with propaganda targeting domestically as your most important historical marvels of your main arguments. Thank you. (“But Bush said, he invaded Irak for God!”)
- You dont know how Putin thinks.
- Your “imperialistic takeover of Ukraine” was planned with 200.000 solderes, as a Shock and awe strategy, with a contingency plan to capture and hold the east. Till this day you have no fucking general mobilization in russia
- This coup in Ukraine coincidentally was organized by CIA enablers USAID, and the National endowment for democracy - even though you tried to weasel your way to an argument, by arguing that other orange revolutions werent.
- Selenskyj and his 60IQ posse of “country managers” are no fucking Vaclav Havel or Lech Wałęsa. They are the product of this initiative:
https://euromaidanpress.com/2019/05/23/ukrainian-civil-society-outlines-red-lines-president-zelenskyi-cant-cross/
- Russias attempts at “proactively managing its borders” before a MASSIVE demographic contraction, was seen as that in all of European media with russian military operations in
- Dagestan,
- Chechnya,
- Georgia
- and Belarus,
its just, that when Crimea was captured - WHICH COINCIDENTALY HELD A HARBOR THAT RUSSIA REQUIRED TO USE FOR (see: Alina Frolova, Former Deputy Minister of Defence of Ukraine ) 40% OF ITS EXPORTS, AND ALL ITS POWER PROJECTION INTO THE BLACK SEA, THE MEDITERRANEAN, AND ALL OF AFRICA - under the noses of the ONE country, that was in that “cover war of the US” (see debate, to get a source for the quote) already, while getting its revolution payed for by the “National Endowment for Democracy”, that suddenly, this was “read” as IMPERIALISTIC and NEOCOLONIAL, and a threat for the countries of the balkan, the baltics, poland, and why not - then EU -- because no general military mobilization, and 200.000 soldiers in Ukraine, was just too much of a threat for the EU not to cry out “russian Hitler” I guess. So of course europe had to do, what europe had to do, because Russia couldnt escalate, and then Russia escalated, and launched voluntary recruitment drives, so those 200.000 became 700.000. But that would be great, you told each oder - because it would ruin russias economy faster - so it really could disintegrate, which never was the goal of the US, as it turns out. Tough luck? Not to a moron like you.
- No the US did not do oh so MUCH to help russia in the 90s, like a fucking “IMF credit”, to enlarge dependency on the US, in fact -- the record of the US congressional meeting where the decision Jeffrey Sachs was on the receiving end on shows that they “wanted to do the least possible to help russia - so the Gorbatschow government wouldnt collapse” - and thats on fucking record - which it then subsequently did (collapse), which the US found just great, because they could finally negotiate with someone they always wanted in that position instead of Gorbatschow, a FUCKING DRUNKARD.
- No, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin - isnt an argument. Its just repeating the propaganda line, so your audience starts to recollect it from memory, and thereby, by the fucking process of repeat recollection starts believing it. I mean, the idiot peoples synapses fire faster after five activations, so it must be true! Right idiot people? (The more correct equivalent would always read: “The entire russian political elite, the entire russian political elite, the entire russian political elite, the entire russian political elite.” But I have to admit “Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin” is catchier.)
Fickt euch ihr fucking Schweine.
Also fuck Nuland, fuck McCain, and fuck american democracy right now.
But also fuck the embedded government shills that put forward purely emotionally acting arguing at intellectual events like the SoHo forum. Take your fucking 40k salaries and fuck yourselves. Moderator (although cheaper) included.
