using @VladVexler as an “impartial expert” in their “Truth and propaganda” series (see video above).
@VladVexler of course being widely known for his great impartial podcasts with @AnnafromUkraine (thats Anna from communications) and @JakeBore [United States Air Force veteran who served as a Nuclear and Missile Operations Officer (13N)], as well as that guy from Silicon Curtain.
See: [Great and impartial] Friends of Ukraine Roundtable #2
Vlad Vexler of course also widely known for publicaly ridiculing Chomsky -
[Only legit, with great and impartial blue skies over yellow sunflowerfield background.]
Because Chomsky stated that Selenskyj was open to peace negotiations, which obviously wasnt true because according to Vlad Vexler Selenskyj was fighting for the mere survival of Ukraine. Except that it was. (See NYT as of June 15th 2024).
With Vlad Vexler you then get presented this in this way:
Putin’s actions are destroying Russia’s future and increasingly odds that Russia may not exist at all and there isn’t even a more striking Omission in that argument and that is - Ukrainian agency since 2014! Ukraine has come together in a Civic Bond powered by anti-colonial sentiment and it’s only an ungrounded newspaper clipping approach to political understanding that could lead Norm Chomsky to say that Ukraine wants peace more than weapons.
For reference, the Interview Vlad Vexler quotes Chomsky from (and underlies with sinister music) was held in May 2022 - when according to Simon Shuster - you know - that Simon Shuster:
Simon Shuster is a senior correspondent at TIME. He covers international affairs, with a focus on Russia and Ukraine.
src: click
[But also according to the NYT as of June 15th 2024 of course.]
Selenkyjs view still was that the Ukraine needed to talk to Putin - to prevent a wider war.
“He also said at the time, days after the Butscha massacre was discovered in early April of 2022, he suggested that Putin might not be fully aware of the warcrimes that his soldiers are committing. And we still need to talk to Putin.
Quite quickly, but certainly over the course of the next weeks that followed, his views, evolved partly under the influence of his advisors. You know this is -- like any administration there are different opinions, and they were discussing what to do, what should be our position in terms of negotiations and -- the possibility of talking to Putin. Is he a monster, is he a statesmen, what is he?! A dictator. And their views evolved quite quickly [but certainly over the course of the next weeks], to the point where I think by the start of summer certainly Selenskyj had decided, that - NO, it is not possible to talk to Putin. (and thats 81 days after Butscha, which became known on April the 1st 2022.)”
src: click (Simon Shuster at the Atlantic Council)
Arte of course being the democratic western outlet that not only brings you a Selenskyj Attract Image Documentary featuring Marieluise Beck from the Zentrum Liberale Moderne - you know, this Zentrum Liberale Moderne:
but also the official war narrative of the Wertewesten in the form of “we talked to the people in the room” documentaries.
(Original source: click)
Where at 3min20 in there exists this wonderful passage:
Sprecher: “Seit der Besetzung der Krim 2014 bittet die Ukraine die USA ihr Javelin Panzer-Abwehrraketen zu liefern. Präsident Obama lehnt zuerst ab, weil er eine Eskalation der Spannungen mit Russland befürchtet. Nun [20.06.2017] legt Poroschenenko Trump seinen Wunsch vor.”
[Context: This was the aformentioned “wish” in November of 2019, six months after the Poroschenko presidency, in the early stages of the Selenskyj presidency:
24.11.2019
The aid, including counter-artillery battery radar, night-vision gear and patrol boats, has since [in the later parts of the Trump administration] been unfrozen and is making a real difference to Ukrainian forces fighting Russian-backed separatists in eastern districts.
But it is the Javelin which appears to be a game-changer, Ukraine’s defence minister told CBC News.
“In certain areas, they can make a critical difference,” said Andriy Zagorodnyuk.
src: click (CBC) End of Context]
Fiona Hill: “Poroschenko schwitzte buchstäblich und wirkte sehr nervös. ich erinnere mich genau an seinen Gesichtsausdruck als er hereinkam - er war sehr beklommen denn für ihn stand viel auf dem Spiel.”
Poroschenko: “Damals gab es bereits die russische Besatzung. Die Krim war besetzt und der Donbas war besetzt.”
H. R. McMaster (National Security Advisor, Trump): “Der Präsident nahm Poroschenko sehr freundlich auf. Er war ein erfolgreicher Geschäftsmann genau wie Trump und auf der Ebene verstanden sie sich.”
Poroschenko: “Ich sagte: Mr President wir brauchen tödliche Waffen. Javelin ist eine sehr wirksame Panzerabwehrrakete.”
H. R. McMaster: “Präsident Poroschenko gelang es Trump die Auswirkungen der russischen Besatzung auf die Ukraine darzulegen. Präsident Trump erkannte die Bedrohung und die Notwendigkeit der Abschreckung”
Poroschenko: “Als ich das Oval Office verließ, war ich wie beflügelt, denn Präsident Trump hatte mir das Javelin System zugesagt. Das war ein großartiger Tag.”
Sprecher: “Doch die Realität sieht anders aus. Als er zwei Wochen später zum G20 Gipfel anreist, hat Trump den Vertrag noch immer nicht unterzeichnet hier soll er Putin erstmals persönlich begegnen.”
Fiona Hill: “Wir erhielten Hinweise von der russischen Delegation, dass Präsident Putin Waffenlieferungen an die Ukraine, vor allem Javelin Raketen sehr kritisch sehen würde.”
John Kelly (Secretary of Homeland Security, Trump): “Der Präsident war sich der Tatsache bewusst dass eine Unterstützung der Ukraine Russland verärgern würde und er wollte wohl oder übel gute Beziehungen zu Putin aufbauen.”
John Kelly: “Trump hegte die trügerische Hoffnung gute persönliche Beziehungen zu Putin seine Haltung mäßigen würden.”
Sprecher: “Das nationale Sicherheitsteam versucht Trump zu überzeugen sein Versprechen an Poroschenko zu halten.”
John Kelly: “Ich machte klar, solange es keinen Angriff gegen die Souveränität der Ukraine gab, werde kein russischer Panzer von Javelin Raketen getroffen und auch kein russischer Soldat von Munition aus den USA.”
H. R. McMaster: “Mein Argument war dass Schwäche Russland provoziert ich glaube Russland hat die Ukraine 2014 angegriffen weil Putin glaubte die Amerikaner würden ohnehin nicht reagieren, deswegen war es wichtig die Verteidigungsfähigkeit der Ukraine die Abschreckung zu stärken. Trump stimmte zu.”
Sprecher: “Ende 2017 gibt Trump den Befehl zur Lieferung tödlicher Waffen [Javelins, the Gamechanger in the Donbas] an die Ukraine.”
Andrej Kelin (former Ambasador of the Russian Federation to the UK): “Aus unserer Sicht hatte Trump mit dieser Entscheidung eine rote Linie überschritten, er wurde dazu überredet Javelin Raketen zu liefern und das war nur der Anfang der Aufrüstung der Ukraine. Der Anfang eines sehr gefährlichen Wegs.”
John Bolton (National Security Advisor): “Putin betrachteten die Lieferung schwerer Waffen an die Ukraine als Bedrohung. Er hielt die Ukraine für ein illegales Staatsgebilde das der Sowjetunion dass Russland zu Unrecht entrissen worden war. Der Zerfall der Sowjetunion war für Putin die größte geopolitische Katastrophe des 20 Jahrhunderts.”
Chomsky of course being the intellectual that then promptly finds out through literary analysis - and promptly also makes public - that this concession -
John Kelly: “Ich machte klar, solange es keinen Angriff gegen die Souveränität der Ukraine gab, werde kein russischer Panzer von jevelin Raketen getroffen und auch kein russischer Soldat von Munition aus den USA.”
- was violated by Ukraine in November of 2021 (or slightly earlier), trying to free the Donbas - referencing this article:
Ukrainian Troops Have Been Firing American-Made Javelin Missiles At Russian-Backed Forces
The disclosure that Ukrainian troops have been employing Javelin missiles in combat comes as fears grow that Russian could launch a new invasion.
JOSEPH TREVITHICK
POSTED ON NOV 22, 2021 6:18 PM EST
The head of Ukraine’s top military intelligence agency has confirmed, for what appears to be the first time, that Ukrainian troops in the country’s eastern Donbass region have fired American-made Javelin anti-tank missiles at Russian or Russian-supported forces. These missiles, along with other advanced weapons that the Ukrainian military has acquired in recent years, such as Turkish Bayraktar TB2 armed drones, would be important factors in the outcome of any future major military confrontation with Russia. Fears are growing that the Kremlin could at least be prepared to launch a new, large-scale invasion of eastern Ukraine as early as January.
Ukrainian Brigadier General Kyrylo Budanov talked about the operational use of Javelins as part of a recent interview with Military Times, which he conducted through an interpreter. Budanov, who runs the Chief Directorate of Intelligence of the Ministry of Defence of Ukraine, also known by its Ukrainian acronym GUR MOU, used the opportunity to call for more help from the U.S. government as he sounded like the alarm about the Kremlin’s unusual deployments of large numbers of military units to areas opposite Russia’s borders with Ukraine in recent weeks.
src: click
Second source: Peter Zeihan here at 17min in.
The second big deployment of russian army units on the ukrainian border happens from Oktober to mid November 2021. US delivered Javelins were likely used in Donbas, by the Ukraine, starting from October 2021.
The US then promptly covers this up and two months later allows the Ukraine to distribute Javelins throughout Ukraine more freely - and use them - even without an official Russian invasion being underway (but that was a change from their previous position, that was only implemented in december of 2021):
04. 12. 2021 (Politico) - Can Ukraine deploy U.S.-made weapons against the Russians?
There are no geographic restrictions on the deployment of the missiles, which means Ukrainian forces can transport, distribute and use them any time.
As Russia amasses the highest number of troops on Ukraine’s border since 2014, the question for Kyiv now becomes: Is it time to start putting U.S.-made weapons in the field?
Ukraine purchased 210 Javelin anti-tank missiles and 37 launchers from the U.S. in 2018 for approximately $47 million, and the State Department approved the sale of a second batch of 150 missiles and 10 launch units in late 2019. But with them came a variety of restrictions on their usage, including that they be stored in western Ukraine, far from the front lines.
The Javelin is a shoulder-fired missile that uses infrared guidance to target and destroy an enemy tank from up to 3 miles away. Former President Donald Trump first approved the sale of the weapon to Ukraine after his predecessor, former President Barack Obama, refused the request, due to fears that providing lethal aid to Kyiv would provoke Moscow.
Wess Mitchell, who served as the Trump administration’s top State Department official overseeing European and Eurasian affairs, noted that the Javelins and other lethal weapons are designed not for first use but to deter Moscow from encroaching on Ukrainian territory.
But while Washington urges Kyiv to use the Javelins only for defensive purposes and requires that the weapons be stored in a secure facility away from the conflict, there are no geographic restrictions on the actual deployment of the missiles, U.S. officials said, which means that Ukrainian forces can transport, distribute and use them at any time.
“Javelins are defensive weapons and the United States expects Ukraine to deploy them responsibly and strategically when needed for defensive purposes,” said Pentagon spokesperson Mike Howard.
If the Javelins were to be moved, it doesn’t necessarily mean they’d be used — in Kyiv’s estimation, the threshold for actually firing the weapons has not yet been met, according to two Ukrainians familiar with the discussions. The red line, they said, would be if Russian tanks crossed over into Ukrainian territory.
The current Russian movement in Eastern Europe is exactly the kind of scenario the Javelin sale was designed to counter, said two former senior U.S. defense officials familiar with the agreement.
src: click (Politico)
Not only that:
But while Washington urges Kyiv to use the Javelins only for defensive purposes and requires that the weapons be stored in a secure facility away from the conflict
- but also this was in play at that time:
John Kelly: “Ich machte klar, solange es keinen Angriff gegen die Souveränität der Ukraine gab, werde kein russischer Panzer von jevelin Raketen getroffen und auch kein russischer Soldat von Munition aus den USA.”
So ARTE of course doesnt catch this. But Chomsky does.
So then he gets publicly character assassinated by Vlad Vexler, whom ARTE then also promptly features in their “Truth and Propaganda” Documentary.
After which Vlad Vexler shows up in the Friends of Ukraine Roundtable #2 featuring Anna from communications, which ARTE of course doesnt realize, as they are too busy greenlighting a Selenskyj Attract Image Documentary featuring Marieluise Beck from the Zentrum Liberale Moderne.
As that doesnt work, Chomsky now really gets on the US Propaganda shitlist, getting essentially the shouting down by an idiot treatment - by a Radio Free Europe/Radio liberty employee:
You know - Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, the only us american broadcaster that is publicly funded by the US government and strangely enough is only broadcasting abroad - but in the past months, also strangely enough finally had secured enough funding to also expand to romania:
22th of June 2024 here at 24 min in:
Jamie Fly (Former Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty CEO):
“I think it’s important uh context, historical context for the US Romanian relationship, when I was president of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, we returned uh to Romania, relaunched our Romanian language service - I had many occasions where I was able to visit uh Bucharest and the thing I think Americans need to understand is Romanians LOVE Freedom uh and it’s uh now in their uh DNA uh and that was an important bond given the work of Radio Free Europe uh during the Communist era, and it was - I had this experience in many countries I operated in, but Romania was perhaps the most fervent. When I went to Romania as president of Radio Free Europe, people would describe to me with tears in their eyes the role that American Broadcasting played during a very dark uh period and uh were always asking us to do more there and I was excited that we were able to to return during my tenure um so and I think that relates to why Romania [!] now has staked out such a clear leadership role uh in the region, advancing uh the values that uh us programming certainly represented during that time so it’s it’s great to be uh with you, so maybe I’ll start broadly just with the state of the US Romania uh relationship which you kind of touched on at the end but I was struck by your note that US engagement needs to be basically reliable, predictable and not to get partisan or - not to say make you say anything too undiplomatic but um the US is always distracted uh and even though the US is very engaged uh in support of Ukraine right now, China is uh a growing challenge drawing attention.”
So then Chomsky and I get a stroke.
Chomsky for real, and recovering:
Noam Chomsky Leaves Hospital After Suffering Stroke
The world-renowned linguist and dissident Noam Chomsky was discharged from a São Paulo hospital in Brazil on Tuesday as he continues to recover from a stroke last year that impacted his ability to speak. His wife Valeria recently told a newspaper in Brazil that the 95-year-old Chomsky still follows the news and raises his left arm in anger when he sees images of Israel’s war on Gaza. False reports that Chomsky had died went viral online on Tuesday.
src: click
Me only figuratively for the sake of coming to the end of this posting.
But at least, we can all still watch impartial ARTE.