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22. Juni 2024

NYT publis­hed ano­t­her deep­di­ve on the the peace nego­tia­ti­ons in April of 2022.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/06/15/world/europe/ukraine-russia-ceasefire-deal.html

The draft inclu­ded limits on the size of the Ukrai­ni­an armed for­ces and the num­ber of tanks, artil­le­ry bat­te­ries, war­s­hips and com­bat air­craft the coun­try could have in its arse­nal. The Ukrai­ni­ans were pre­pa­red to accept such caps, but sought much hig­her limits.

A for­mer seni­or U.S. offi­cial who was brie­fed on the nego­tia­ti­ons, noting how Rus­si­an for­ces were being repel­led across nort­hern Ukrai­ne, said Mr. Putin see­med to be “sali­vat­ing” at the deal.

Ame­ri­can offi­cials were alar­med at the terms. In mee­tings with their Ukrai­ni­an coun­ter­parts, the seni­or offi­cial recal­led, “We quiet­ly said, ‘You under­stand this is uni­la­te­ral dis­ar­ma­ment, right?’”

Lea­ders in Poland — ear­ly and strong sup­por­ters of Ukrai­ne — fea­red that Ger­ma­ny or Fran­ce might try to per­sua­de the Ukrai­ni­ans to accept Russia’s terms, accord­ing to a Euro­pean diplo­mat, and wan­ted to pre­vent that from happening.

To that end, when Poland’s pre­si­dent, Andrzej Duda, met with NATO lea­ders in Brussels on March 24, he held up the March 17 text, said the diplo­mat, who was present.

Which of you would sign it?” Mr. Duda asked his coun­ter­parts, the diplo­mat said.

None of the NATO lea­ders spo­ke up.

A Bre­akthrough in Istanbul?

A few days later, on March 29, Rus­sia and Ukraine’s repre­sen­ta­ti­ves met at an Istan­bul palace on the Bos­po­rus. To some, the talks felt like a bre­akthrough dri­ven by Russia’s battle­field struggles.

After each mili­ta­ry set­back, a mem­ber of Ukraine’s nego­tia­ting team said, Mr. Putin “redu­ced his demands.”

In Istan­bul, the Rus­si­ans see­med to endor­se Ukraine’s model of neu­tra­li­ty and secu­ri­ty gua­ran­tees and put less empha­sis on their ter­ri­to­ri­al deman­ds. After­ward, Mr. Medi­n­sky, Russia’s lead nego­tia­tor, said Ukraine’s offer of neu­tra­li­ty meant it was “rea­dy to ful­fill tho­se princi­pal deman­ds that Rus­sia insis­ted on for all the past years.”

Ukrai­ne sum­ma­ri­zed the pro­po­sed deal in a two-page docu­ment it cal­led the Istan­bul Com­mu­ni­qué, which it never publis­hed. The sta­tus of Cri­mea was to be deci­ded over a 10- or 15-year peri­od, with Ukrai­ne pro­mi­sing not to try to reta­ke the pen­in­su­la by for­ce; Mr. Zelen­sky and Mr. Putin would meet in per­son to fina­li­ze a peace trea­ty and strike a deal on how much Ukrai­ni­an ter­ri­to­ry Rus­sia would con­ti­nue to occupy.

The com­mu­ni­qué, pro­vi­ded to The Times by a Ukrai­ni­an nego­tia­tor, descri­bed a mecha­nism in which other coun­tries would inter­vene mili­ta­ri­ly if Ukrai­ne were atta­cked again — a con­cept that the Ukrai­ni­ans poin­ted­ly desi­gna­ted as Arti­cle 5, a refe­rence to the mutu­al defen­se agree­ment in Arti­cle 5 of the NATO treaty.

In ear­ly April, after Rus­sia with­drew from the out­skirts of Kyiv, images of mas­sa­c­red civi­li­ans in the sub­urb of Bucha, some with their hands tied with white cloth, sho­cked the world. For Ukrai­ni­ans, the idea that their coun­try could strike a com­pro­mi­se with Rus­sia see­med more remo­te than ever.

But Mr. Zelen­sky, visi­t­ing Bucha on April 4, said the talks would go on, even as Rus­sia dis­mis­sed the Bucha atro­ci­ties as a sta­ged “pro­vo­ca­ti­on.”

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Qui­te quick­ly, but cer­tain­ly over the cour­se of the next weeks that fol­lo­wed, Selen­sky­js views evol­ved, part­ly under the influ­ence of his advisors

(as a second source)

Col­leagues, I spo­ke to RA,” Ukraine’s lead nego­tia­tor, Davyd Arak­ha­mia, wro­te on April 10 in a Whats­App mes­sa­ge to the Ukrai­ni­an team. “He spo­ke yes­ter­day for an hour and a half with his boss.”

RA” was Roman Abra­mo­vich, the Rus­si­an bil­lion­aire who play­ed a behind-the-scenes role in the talks. His “boss,” Mr. Putin, was urging the nego­tia­tors to con­cen­tra­te on the key issu­es and work through them quick­ly, Mr. Arak­ha­mia wro­te. (A mem­ber of the Whats­App group show­ed that mes­sa­ge and others to repor­ters for The Times.)

BUT THEN OH NO!

Mr. Putin’s invol­ve­ment and inten­ti­ons during the 2022 talks were sub­jects of deba­te in Kyiv and Washing­ton, Ukrai­ni­an and Ame­ri­can offi­cials said. Was he tru­ly inte­res­ted in a deal? Or was he merely try­ing to bog Ukrai­ne down while his tro­ops regrouped?

We didn’t know if Putin was serious,” said the for­mer seni­or U.S. offi­cial. “We couldn’t tell, on eit­her side of the fence, whe­ther the­se peop­le who were tal­king were empowered.”

One Ukrai­ni­an nego­tia­tor said he belie­ved the nego­tia­ti­ons were a bluff on Mr. Putin’s part, but two others descri­bed them as serious.

Much of the trea­ty would “not app­ly” to Cri­mea and ano­t­her to-be-determined swath of Ukrai­ne — mea­ning that Kyiv would accept Rus­si­an occup­a­ti­on of part of its ter­ri­to­ry without reco­gni­zing Rus­si­an sov­er­eig­n­ty over it.

But cru­cial sti­cking points remai­ned. Rus­sia wan­ted the firing ran­ge of Ukraine’s mis­si­les to be limi­ted to 25 miles, while Ukrai­ne wan­ted 174 miles — enough to hit tar­gets across Cri­mea. Rus­sia still wan­ted Ukrai­ne to repeal laws rela­ted to lan­guage and natio­nal iden­ti­ty, and to pull back Ukrai­ni­an tro­ops as part of a cease-fire.

The big­gest pro­blem, howe­ver, came in Arti­cle 5. It sta­ted that, in the event of ano­t­her armed attack on Ukrai­ne, the “gua­ran­tor sta­tes” that would sign the trea­ty — Gre­at Bri­tain, Chi­na, Rus­sia, the United Sta­tes and Fran­ce — would come to Ukraine’s defense.

To the Ukrai­ni­ans’ dis­may, the­re was a cru­cial depar­tu­re from what Ukrai­ni­an nego­tia­tors said was dis­cus­sed in Istan­bul. Rus­sia inser­ted a clau­se say­ing that all gua­ran­tor sta­tes, inclu­ding Rus­sia, had to appro­ve the respon­se if Ukrai­ne were atta­cked. In effect, Moscow could inva­de Ukrai­ne again and then veto any mili­ta­ry inter­ven­ti­on on Ukraine’s behalf — a see­min­gly absurd con­di­ti­on that Kyiv quick­ly iden­ti­fied as a dealbreaker.

Rus­sia tried to secu­re a veto on Ukraine’s secu­ri­ty gua­ran­tees by inser­ting a clau­se requi­ring unani­mous consent.

With that chan­ge, a mem­ber of the Ukrai­ni­an nego­tia­ting team said, “we had no inte­rest in con­ti­nuing the talks.”

And then ghosted.









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