Point 1 - According to Stoltenberg “There is really no difference between the russian war in Ukraine and the upcoming attack of China on Taiwan” - even though one didnt happen yet.
Point 2 - Moderator: How is the Arctic different in terms of Nato is safeguarding peace? “Its really not different. The Arctic is also a buch of land and water and ice, but less ice now, and more sea, so the Arctic also very important in Natos mission to safeguard peace”!
Point 3 - Compare and contrast with a google search for “nato attacks without un mandate”.
Compare and contrast with a google search for “nato exceeded un mandate”.
Or if you can stomach it - with this:
Point 4 - “China wants to join the Arctic circle alliance, someone told me - they also want to be part of this, but they arent even an Arctic country!”
Meanwhile - North Atlantic Treaty Organisation opens “headquaters” in Japan, …
Point 5: Ukraine has to join Nato - otherwise we can not be sure Russia wont attack Ukraine again!
For that to happen, Ukraine has to be closely brought up to Nato standards, so that “WHENTHETIMEISRIGHT” in a Moment of weakness for russia, when Turkey can be convinced as well, the actual joining process can happen without the normal path of action, in a quicktrack fashion, within a few weeks. “This is the only way to just and permanent peace.”
SONOTMUCHCHANGEDTHEN, SINCETHEBEFORETHEWARPERIOD, I RECON?
Diese Gesellschaft ist das absolut grotesk und abartigst Allerletzte.
Point 6:
“Nato has been so successful, because its mission statement was so clear, to protect peace.” (Jens Stoltenberg)
but also
“I’m optimistic, Nato is so successful, because we have proven so agile and adaptable over time.” (Jens Stoltenberg, same Press conference)
Gut, Propaganda hat wieder niemand entdeckt, was will man machen…
Thats specifically what Der Standard will bring you tomorrow.
Great new easy to understand information from Anna who works in communications, and her pals.
They so greatfull, that people dont fall for russian propaganda, and find it really hopefull, that people selfidentify as siberians and non russians.
Summit great success! Over something something countries signed closing statement. Brasil, India, South Africa, Columbia, Mexico, Indonesia, Thailand, Armenia and Libya did not - but great success!
Propaganda hat aber natürlich wieder niemand entdeckt.
Der Standard berichtet gerade eben wieder pflichtgemäß wie geil erst der nächste Selenskyj Formel Friedensgipfel werden wird…
Also great news from old pal Gen. Ben Hodges, talking to polish TVP yesterday!
Russia almost depleted, we make Ukraine win now!
Ups, bad Newspaper NZZ reports something much like what russians want you to think, dont know why - bad people at NZZ probably - better only listen to good people like Anna from Ukraine!
Ein Erfolg für die Schweiz, eine zwiespältige Angelegenheit für die Ukraine: Das erhoffte Signal bleibt aus
Das Gipfeltreffen auf dem Bürgenstock hat den Frieden nicht vorangebracht. Die Veranstalter und Teilnehmer versuchen das schönzureden, aber wichtiger wäre etwas Realismus.
Gen. Ben Hodges also very good Analyst of course. Constantly wrong for two and a half years now - but surely his moment will come.
edit: Mangott:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seZSUfVwUTk
edit2: Just lost 2.2 Billion people. Any idea where to find them?
For the peace the world wants! Well, the representatives of the remaining 1.3 billion people.
Bürgenstock - where a sixth of the worlds populations decides how the worlds wars will end tomorrow, still based on Selenskys 10 Point Peace formula.
Oh, and if you still havent caught on, that points that in the UN charter are “shall” regulations (the attacking party shall) in the Selenskyj Global Peace Great Summit process framework, that russia MUST abide by, for starting of great peace conference, which next time certainly will be peace conference, we promise to invite russia, but only if russia agrees to our framework for peace -- so points that in the UN charta are “shall” regulations, in the Bürgenstock end communique become “must” regulations, well -- then I hope you can also listen to the austrian chancellor telling you “those countries just didnt like the phrasing of the final declaration”.
Just pretend, that you dont know any of that - and the world is still behind Selenskyj - because the entirety of the austrian media sphere does.
Diese Gesellschaft ist das absolut grotesk und abartigst Allerletzte.
Die Ukraine zeigte sich grundsätzlich offen für Diskussionen um eine Beteiligung Russlands an weiteren Konferenzen. Man werde aber genau prüfen, wann und wie mit russischen Vertretern gemeinsam über Frieden verhandelt werde, erklärte Wolodimir Selenskis Stabschef Andri Jermak am Rande der Konferenz.
Die Souveränität und territoriale Integrität der Ukraine seien nicht verhandelbar. Jermak erinnerte noch einmal daran, dass es für die Ukraine bei dem Treffen in der Schweiz um nicht weniger geht als um die Grundpfeiler des internationalen Rechts und des Zusammenlebens der Nationen.
Dies sei kein Verhandlungsangebot, sondern der Aufruf zu einer Kapitulation Russlands - sagt der Verfasser dieses Blogeintrags. Und Gerhard Mangott…
Same as it ever was:
Kamala Harris also very intelligent of course:
Doch kurz vor Beginn des Treffens hatte der russische Präsident Wladimir Putin überraschend neue Forderungen für einen Frieden im Krieg mit der Ukraine gestellt. Unter anderem meldete er Anspruch auf vier ukrainische Regionen an und forderte eine Garantie, dass die Ukraine nicht der Nato beitritt.
Dies sei kein Verhandlungsangebot, sondern der Aufruf zu einer Kapitulation der Ukraine, hiess es dazu von verschiedenen Teilnehmern, darunter auch die amerikanische Vizepräsidentin Kamala Harris.
Widerspricht sich dann aber selbst zweimal im Text…
Mehrere europäische Staatschefs betonen auf dem Bürgenstock, es sei besonders wichtig, sich nicht nur «in einer westlichen Echokammer» (Österreichs Bundeskanzler Karl Nehammer) zu bewegen – umso zentraler sei etwa die Teilnahme von Indien oder Brasilien. Beide Länder sind anwesend, allerdings nicht auf Ministerebene.
Genau hundert internationale Delegationen kommen auf den Bürgenstock. Mehr als die Hälfte der Länder schicken ihre Staats- oder Regierungschefs. Andere Länder, wie etwa Indien (bei dem eine Teilnahme unsicher war), schicken einen Minister.
Alle werden einzeln vorgestellt: Bundespräsidentin Amherd und der ukrainische Präsident Wolodimir Selenski mit dem indischen Vertreter Pavan Kapoor (Mitte).
Deutschsprachiger Journalismus, meine Damen und Herren! Qualität wohin man schaut.
edit: Fun with data:
Non EU countries that sent their head of state/head of gouvernment:
Adds up to roughly 910 million people.
EU states have roughly 450 million people.
(I just bunched them together the few that didnt send their head of state/head of government arent worth building an extra category for at this time of the day.. 😉 .).
Non EU countries that sent a ministerial representative:
Populations add up to roughly 2.2 Billion.
So representatives of 3.5 billion people in the world were “actively engaged”.
The National News Agency of Ukraine (Ukrainian: Українське національне інформаційне агентство), or Ukrinform (Ukrainian: Укрінформ), is a state information and news agency, and international broadcaster of Ukraine. It was founded in 1918 during the Ukrainian War of Independence[6] as the Bureau of Ukrainian Press (BUP). The first director of the agency was Dmytro Dontsov, when the agency name was The Ukrainian Telegraph Agency.[7]
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edit: Oh btw. India only will be represented by an Ambassador led diplomatic delegation, even though great and not all propagandistic news source Ukrinform will inform you that Indias president is coming.
India has chosen to send Ambassador Pawan Kapoor, the most senior career diplomat after Vinay Kwatra, to Switzerland.
The most senior career diplomat after the Vinay Kwatra (Current foreign secretary of india)?
I’m amazed!
Whats Ambassador Pawan Kapoors current position in the indian diplomatic corps?
Pavan Kapoor (born 24 December 1966) is an Indian diplomat and former Indian Ambassador to Russia. He previously served as India’s High Commissioner to Mozambique and the Kingdom of Swaziland from January 2014 to early 2016, Ambassador to Israel from March 2016 to September 2019, and Ambassador to the United Arab Emirates from October 2019 to November 2021.[2]
Career
Pavan Kapoor joined the Indian Foreign Service in 1990. In his diplomatic career, he has served in different Indian Missions abroad, the Ministry of External Affairs, and the Prime Minister’s Office in New Delhi. He also served as an international civil servant with the Commonwealth Secretariat in London.[2]
Wait - India is sending its former russian ambassador to the Ukrainian Global Peace summit in Bürgenstock? You know, the one that joined the Indian Foreign Service in 1990?
Wait - wait, when was indias second most senior career diplomat appointed to his former job - you know, as the indian ambassador to russia?
Shri Pavan Kapoor (IFS: 1990), presently Ambassador of India to United Arab Emirates, has been appointed as the next Ambassador of India to the Russian Federation.
2. He is expected to take up the assignment shortly.
Wait, wait, what was Pavan Kapoors Mission statement in the years 2021 - 2024?
Pavan Kapoor headed the Indian Embassy in Moscow on 22nd of November, 2021. Previously, His Excellency was the Ambassador of the Republic of India to the United Arab Emirates from October 2019 to November 2021. In a diplomatic career spanning over three decades, Ambassador Kapoor has served in different capacities in the Indian Missions in Moscow, London, Geneva, Tel Aviv apart from serving in the Ministry of External Affairs and the Prime Minister’s Office in New Delhi.
According to the Russian Foreign Ministry, Pavan Kapoor received copies of his credentials from the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Igor Morgulov. Within the framework of the meeting, the sides discussed an approach to further strengthening of Russian-Indian relations, topical global and regional problems, as well as a schedule of upcoming contacts.
Bestest diplomat to attend the Global Ukrainian peace summit ever!
Well at least he knows the territory…
Why Ambassador Pawan Kapoor?
India has chosen to send Ambassador Pawan Kapoor, the most senior career diplomat after Vinay Kwatra, to Switzerland. Kapoor currently serves as Secretary (West) in the Ministry of External Affairs. After spending nearly two and a half years in Moscow as the Indian Ambassador to Russia, Kapoor returned to South Block in April 2024. His tenure in Moscow coincided with the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.
External Affairs Minister - no thats not him
Minister of State for External Affairs - no thats not him
Foreign Secretary - no thats not him
Secretary (Economic Relations) - no thats not him
Secretary (East) - ah, thats his eastern counterpart!
Secretary (West) - THATSHIM, THATS Shri Pavan Kapoor!
So lets count.
President? No.
Vice President? No.
Prime Minister? No.
External Affairs Minister? No.
Minister of State for External affairs? No.
Foreign Secretary? No.
Secretary (West)? Yes!
Second most senior diplomat incoming!
Government representative? Why should we send a government representative? Here, have a career diplomat.
Ukrinform will tell you its Narendra Modi anyhow. Dont look too close!
edit: Huch, was erlaubt sich eigentlich SRF?
Und so treffen sich die 90 Staaten und Organisationen am Wochenende ohne Russland auf dem Bürgenstock. Fehlen wird voraussichtlich das Schlüsselland China. Und das wichtige Indien dürfte eine niederrangige Delegation entsenden – ebenso wie Brasilien, falls dieses überhaupt teilnimmt.
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