Der Presseclub Concordia schlägt dem Fass grad den Boden aus

08. Juni 2023

Die Teil­nah­me Jef­frey Sachs wird als Begrün­dung dafür ange­führt, war­um der ÖGB sei­ne Räum­lich­kei­ten für die “Frie­dens­kon­fe­renz” in Wien nicht zur Ver­fü­gung stellt -

und der Pres­se­club Con­cordia wird wie folgt zitiert:

Es geht um die bei die­ser Kon­fe­renz ange­kün­dig­ten Leu­te und wo sie sonst auf­tre­ten, näm­lich nach dem 24. Febru­ar 2022 in Kreml-Propagandamedien, wo zum Mas­sen­mord an der ukrai­ni­schen Zivil­be­völ­ke­rung auf­ge­ru­fen wird”, begrün­de­te Concordia-Generalsekretärin Danie­la Kraus die Ent­schei­dung, kei­ne Pres­se­kon­fe­renz der Ver­an­stal­tun­gen in ihren Räum­lich­kei­ten haben zu wol­len. Kraus bezog sich damit kon­kret auf den US-Ökonomen Sachs. Ob er per­sön­lich nach Wien kom­men oder per Video­schal­tung teil­neh­men wür­de, stand nach Anga­ben “Gipfel”-Sprecher Gabri­el am Mitt­woch noch nicht defi­ni­tiv fest.

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Das ist so über­aus erstaun­lich - denn, vor fünf Mona­ten, hat­te das Bru­no Krei­sky Forum damit noch kei­ne Probleme

- aber gut, da war ja das Wall Street Jour­nal Opi­ni­on Pie­ce noch nicht ver­öf­fent­licht… (Adri­an Karat­ny­cky is a non­re­si­dent seni­or fel­low with the Atlan­tic Council’s Eura­sia Cen­ter.)

More sur­pri­sing are the appearan­ces of several estab­lish­ment figu­res: Colum­bia Uni­ver­si­ty eco­no­mist Jef­frey Sachs ; the Natio­nal Interest’s natio­nal secu­ri­ty cor­re­spon­dent, Mark Epi­sko­pos ; and Dimi­tri Simes, until recent­ly pre­si­dent of the Cen­ter for the Natio­nal Inte­rest. They wil­lin­g­ly appe­ar on the pro­grams of Russia’s most odious sta­te pro­pa­gan­dist, Vla­di­mir Solo­vyov. Mr. Solo­vyov has cal­led for a Rus­si­an inva­si­on of Euro­pe, bom­bing Ukrai­ni­an cities into the ground, and punis­hing Ukrai­ni­ans for “Nazism.” Last mon­th he decla­red on air that “the more we burn Ukrai­ne now, the easier it will be to pum­mel Ger­ma­ny, Bri­tain, Fran­ce, all tho­se Euro­pean Nazi bas­tards, and the United Sta­tes will also suffer.”
Mr. Sachs has made three appearan­ces on Mr. Solovyov’s pro­grams sin­ce Novem­ber. Mr. Sachs has long argued that the West pro­vo­ked Rus­sia into inva­ding Ukrai­ne in 2014 by vir­tue of the North Atlan­tic Trea­ty Organization’s “threa­tening” expan­si­on toward Rus­sia. In his appearan­ces last fall, he cal­led for an immedia­te end to hos­ti­li­ties, which would pre­ser­ve Rus­si­an con­trol over 15% of Ukraine—more than dou­ble the Ukrai­ni­an land Moscow con­trol­led befo­re the Febru­a­ry 2022 inva­si­on [would it? Sei­ze fire doesnt mean peace trea­ty. Die Wie­ner Zei­tung spä­ter dazu: “könn­te dahin­ge­hend inter­pre­tiert wer­den” - sie­he spä­te­rer Teil des Blog­postings.]. Accord­ing to the Rus­si­an dub­bing of Mr. Sachs’s English-language comments, he has told Rus­si­ans that a “mas­si­ve num­ber” of Ame­ri­cans “wish to exit the con­flict in Ukrai­ne,” con­dem­ned the U.S. admi­nis­tra­ti­on for “dis­in­for­ma­ti­on,” and cal­led Pre­si­dent Volo­dym­yr Zelensky’s con­di­ti­ons for peace “abso­lu­te nonsense.”

Das Ber­kley Cen­ter oder das UCCI­re­land wuss­ten es vor fünf Mona­ten auch noch nicht. Das Cana­di­an For­eign Poli­cy Insti­tu­te noch nicht ein­mal vor einem Monat. (Letz­te­res ist nur so ein mit­tel­tol­les Bei­spiel - da nur ein think tank, mit grants vom kana­di­schen Depart­ment of Natio­nal Defen­se.)

Nun zum Inhaltlichen:

Mas­si­ve num­ber of ame­ri­cans who wish to exit the con­flict in Ukraine”

Ja stimmt.

Near­ly 60 per­cent of Ame­ri­cans would sup­port the United Sta­tes enga­ging in diplo­ma­tic efforts “as soon as pos­si­ble” to end the war in Ukrai­ne, even if that means Ukrai­ne having to make con­ces­si­ons to Rus­sia, accord­ing to a new poll. 

src: click Im Ori­gi­nal vom “berüch­tig­ten Pro­pa­gan­da Out­let Busi­ness Insi­der”.

Des­in­for­ma­ti­on? Gut - hat der Reis­ner dem Bri­ti­schen Mili­tär­brie­fing eben­falls vor­ge­wor­fen. Ich neh­me an der sitzt mor­gen nicht mehr im ORF Zentrum?

Hier bei 35:37 in:

Und Selen­sky­js “Frie­dens­for­mel” als “abso­lu­ten Non­sen­se” zu bezeich­nen - naja, mehr als die Hälf­te aller Exper­ten (!) sieht einen voll­stän­di­gen Rück­zug Russ­lands aus der Ukrai­ne immer noch als unwahr­schein­lich an.

Wei­ters haben sol­che Erläu­te­run­gen Selen­sky­js bezüg­lich sei­ner “Frie­dens­for­mel” sicher nicht zu deren Attrak­ti­vi­tät beigetragen.

I am spea­king on behalf of the sta­te, which is for­ced to defend its­elf, but has the for­mu­la for peace. I am spea­king to ever­yo­ne who wants to hear how to achie­ve peace. 

I will pre­sent a for­mu­la that can work not only for us, but for anyo­ne who may find them­sel­ves in simi­lar cir­cum­s­tan­ces as we did. It is a for­mu­la that punis­hes crime, pro­tects life, res­to­res secu­ri­ty and ter­ri­to­ri­al inte­gri­ty, gua­ran­tees secu­ri­ty, and pro­vi­des determination. 

The­re are five pre­con­di­ti­ons for peace.

[…]

But Rus­sia – ins­tead of stop­ping the crime of aggres­si­on, which it star­ted back in 2014 – tur­ned it into a full-scale inva­si­on. And we have no choice but to defend our­sel­ves. We do it. We push the aggres­sor bey­ond the inter­na­tio­nal­ly reco­gni­zed bor­der of the Ukrai­ni­an state.

And this is the first item of our peace for­mu­la. Com­pre­hen­si­ve item. Punishment. 

Punish­ment for the crime of aggres­si­on. Punish­ment for vio­la­ti­on of bor­ders and ter­ri­to­ri­al inte­gri­ty. Punish­ment that must be in place until the inter­na­tio­nal­ly reco­gni­zed bor­der is res­to­red. Until the aggres­si­on stops. And until the dama­ges and los­ses for the war are ful­ly compensated.

The­re­fo­re, sanc­tions against the aggres­sor are part of the peace for­mu­la. Blo­cking the tra­de and rela­ti­ons with the aggres­sor is part of the peace for­mu­la. All this is a punishment.

So long as the aggres­sor is a par­ty to decision-making in the inter­na­tio­nal orga­niz­a­ti­ons, he must be iso­la­ted from them – at least until aggres­si­on lasts. Reject the right to vote. Depri­ve dele­ga­ti­on rights. Remo­ve the right of veto – if it is a Mem­ber of the UN Secu­ri­ty Coun­cil. In order to punish the aggres­sor wit­hin the institutions.

We should not turn a blind eye to pro­pa­gan­dists who jus­ti­fy aggres­si­on, but app­ly a full packa­ge of per­so­nal restric­tions against them. That is a punish­ment for lying.

Citi­zens of the aggres­sor sta­te should not be allo­wed to enjoy tou­rism or shop­ping in the ter­ri­to­ry of tho­se who value peace, but should be encou­ra­ged through visa restric­tions to fight against the aggres­si­on of their own sta­te. Punish for abet­ting the evil.

A Spe­cial Tri­bu­nal should be crea­ted to punish Rus­sia for the crime of aggres­si­on against our sta­te. This will beco­me signal to all “would-be” aggres­sors, that they must value peace or be brought to respon­si­bi­li­ty by the world.

We have pre­pa­red pre­cise steps to estab­lish such Tri­bu­nal. They will be pre­sen­ted to all states.

Ukrai­ne will appeal to the UN Gene­ral Assem­bly to sup­port an inter­na­tio­nal com­pen­sa­ti­on mechanism. 

We count on your support. 

Rus­sia should pay for this war with its assets. It is also a punish­ment. This is one of the most ter­ri­ble punish­ments for Rus­si­an offi­cials, who value money abo­ve ever­ything else.

The second item of the peace for­mu­la is the pro­tec­tion of life. The most con­cre­te item.

Now, while the ses­si­ons of the Gene­ral Assem­bly con­ti­nue, in the Ukrai­ni­an town of Izyum, Khar­kiv regi­on, the exhu­ma­ti­on is under way… of bodies from a mass buri­al, which hap­pen­ed when the ter­ri­to­ry was con­trol­led by Rus­si­an tro­ops. The bodies of women and men, child­ren and adults, civi­li­ans and sol­di­ers were found the­re. 445 graves. 

The­re is a fami­ly that died under the rub­ble of a house after a Rus­si­an airstrike – father, mother, 6- and 8-year-old girls, grand­par­ents. The­re is a man who was stran­gled with a rope. The­re is a woman with bro­ken ribs and wounds on her body. The­re is a man who was cas­tra­ted befo­re the mur­der, and this is not the first case.

Ask, plea­se, the repre­sen­ta­ti­ves of Rus­sia why the Rus­si­an mili­ta­ry are so obses­sed with cas­tra­ti­on. What was done to them so that they want to do this to others?

The only thing that dif­fers the mass buri­al in Izyum from what the world saw in Bucha is, in fact, the buri­al. The Rus­si­an army was in Izyum for a lon­ger time, and the­re­fo­re the bodies of the kil­led peop­le were buried, and not scat­te­red on the streets.

So, how can we allow the Rus­si­an army some­whe­re on Ukrai­ni­an soil, knowing that they are com­mit­ting such mass mur­ders ever­y­whe­re? We cannot.

We must pro­tect life. The world must pro­tect life. Every sta­te suf­fe­ring the armed aggres­si­on needs the oppor­tu­ni­ty to pro­tect its citi­zens and libe­ra­te its territory.

If it requi­res help with wea­pons or shells – they should be pro­vi­ded. If you need finan­cial help for this, it should be given. If for this, it is necessa­ry to help with the intel­li­gence data – just do it. But what is not nee­ded is lies.

We can return the Ukrai­ni­an flag to our ent­i­re ter­ri­to­ry. We can do it with the for­ce of arms. 

But we need time. 

We tried to speed it up. We tried to imple­ment the basic pro­vi­si­ons of the UN Char­ter for Ukrai­ne through negotiations. 

But Rus­sia is afraid of real nego­tia­ti­ons and does not want to ful­fill any fair inter­na­tio­nal obli­ga­ti­ons. It lies to ever­yo­ne. As it is typi­cal for aggres­sors, for terrorists. 

Even now, when Rus­sia talks about nego­tia­ti­ons, it only wants to slow down its retre­at. Rus­sia wants to spend the win­ter on the occu­p­ied ter­ri­to­ry of Ukrai­ne and pre­pa­re for­ces to attempt a new offen­si­ve. New Buchas, new Izyums… Or at least it wants to pre­pa­re for­ti­fi­ca­ti­ons on occu­p­ied land and car­ry out mili­ta­ry mobi­liz­a­ti­on at home.

We can­not agree to a delay­ed war. Becau­se it will be even hot­ter than the war now.

For us, this is a war for life. That is why we need defen­se sup­port – wea­pons, mili­ta­ry equip­ment and shells. Offen­si­ve wea­pons, a long-range one is enough to libe­ra­te our land, and defen­si­ve sys­tems, abo­ve all, air defen­se. And we need finan­cial sup­port – to keep inter­nal sta­bi­li­ty and ful­fill social obli­ga­ti­ons to our people. 

Phy­si­cal and social pro­tec­tion are two ele­ments of any nation’s life. So, the second item of our peace for­mu­la is the pro­tec­tion of life. By all avail­ab­le means – allo­wed by the UN Charter.

The third item of our peace for­mu­la is res­to­ring secu­ri­ty and ter­ri­to­ri­al integrity. 

Look at how many ele­ments of glo­bal secu­ri­ty Rus­sia has under­mi­ned with its war – mari­ti­me safe­ty, food safe­ty, radia­ti­on safe­ty, ener­gy safe­ty and safe­ty from wea­pons of mass destruction.

We are alrea­dy res­to­ring mari­ti­me safe­ty and food secu­ri­ty. And I thank Mr. Antó­nio Guter­res for his per­so­nal invol­ve­ment. Alge­ria, Ethio­pia, Egypt, Libya, Kenya, Soma­lia, Sudan, Tuni­sia, Ban­gla­desh, Isra­el, India, Iran, Yemen, Cyprus, Chi­na, Korea, Leba­non, Tür­ki­ye, Bel­gi­um, Bul­ga­ria, Greece, Ire­land, Spain, Ita­ly, Nether­lands, Ger­ma­ny, Roma­nia and Fran­ce have alrea­dy recei­ved Ukrai­ni­an agri­cul­tu­ral products. 

And we have to incre­a­se the sup­ply by sea. Both under mar­ket con­di­ti­ons and wit­hin the UN Food Pro­gram, for which Ukrai­ne is always a reli­able partner. 

By the way, des­pi­te all the dif­fi­cul­ties cau­sed by the war, we deci­ded to pro­vi­de huma­ni­ta­ri­an aid to Ethio­pia and Soma­lia, so we will send them an addi­tio­nal amount of our wheat.

But it is more dif­fi­cult with other secu­ri­ty elements. 

On the eve of the Gene­ral Assem­bly mee­ting, Rus­sia fired mis­si­les at the South Ukrai­ne Nuclear Power Plant. The explo­si­on hit the sta­ti­on buil­dings – win­dows were bro­ken, walls were dama­ged. The rockets explo­ded only three hund­red meters from the walls of the reactors! 

And this is after the IAEA’s clear appeal to Rus­sia to stop any hos­ti­le acti­vi­ty against any nuclear faci­li­ties of Ukrai­ne and, in par­ti­cu­lar, against the Zapo­rizhzhia Nuclear Power Sta­ti­on – the lar­gest one in Euro­pe, which Rus­sia has tur­ned into a target. 

And that makes all of you a target.

Rus­si­an radia­ti­on black­mai­ling is some­thing that should con­cern each and every one of you, becau­se none of you will find a vac­ci­ne against radia­ti­on sickness.

The cost of living cri­sis con­ti­nues in dozens of coun­tries, it roots in the desta­bi­liz­a­ti­on of the ener­gy mar­ket. It is necessa­ry to remo­ve the main fac­tor of glo­bal pri­ce tur­bu­lence, name­ly: Rus­si­an ener­gy blackmailing. 

It is necessa­ry to cap the pri­ces at which Rus­sia exports its ener­gy resour­ces. It is necessa­ry to make Rus­si­an oil and gas – just ordi­na­ry goods again. Cur­r­ent­ly, oil and gas are Russia’s ener­gy wea­pons. And that is why it mani­pu­la­tes the mar­kets so that electri­ci­ty, gas, petrol and die­sel beco­me the pri­vi­le­ge of few ins­tead of being a com­mon good avail­ab­le to all.

Limi­t­ing pri­ces is safe­guar­ding the world. This is the way to res­to­re ener­gy and pri­ce security. 

But will the world go for it? Or will it be sca­red? Will it be sca­red of Rus­si­an threats?

It is necessa­ry to take only one strong step, after which ever­ything will beco­me clear. The time has come for this.

This step will put ever­ything in place. After the Rus­si­an mis­si­le ter­ror. After the mas­sa­c­res. After Mariu­pol. After the bur­ning of Ukrai­ni­an pri­so­ners in Ole­ni­vka by the Rus­si­an mili­ta­ry. After blo­cking the ports. After the strikes of Rus­si­an tanks and mis­si­les on nuclear power plants. And after thre­ats to use nuclear wea­pons, which have beco­me the rule, not the excep­ti­on, for Rus­si­an propagandists…

We must final­ly reco­gni­ze Rus­sia as a sta­te spon­sor of ter­ro­rism. At all levels. In all coun­tries that con­fess the values of peace and pro­tec­tion of human life. Legal­ly. Politically. 

If you don’t have a legal mecha­nism, you can make a poli­ti­cal decisi­on – in the par­lia­ments. This is the foun­da­ti­on for res­to­ring glo­bal secu­ri­ty. If this strong step is taken, doubts will disap­pe­ar – whe­ther to take other important steps.

And what is very sen­si­ti­ve – is the bor­der, the ter­ri­to­ri­al integrity.

When one coun­try tri­es to ste­al the ter­ri­to­ry of ano­t­her sta­te, it puts all world nati­ons under attack. 

Glo­bal secu­ri­ty can­not be res­to­red without res­to­ring the ter­ri­to­ri­al inte­gri­ty of the nati­on which suf­fe­red the armed aggression.

So, the third item of the Ukrai­ni­an peace for­mu­la is the res­to­ra­ti­on of secu­ri­ty and ter­ri­to­ri­al integrity.

The fourth item is secu­ri­ty guarantees.

Every nati­on has the right to secu­ri­ty gua­ran­tees. Not only the lar­gest nati­ons. Not only the most for­tu­n­a­te ones.

We have pro­po­sals to upgrade the secu­ri­ty archi­tec­tu­re for Ukrai­ne, and for Euro­pe and the world, which will not allow any more aggres­si­on against us. We are alrea­dy pre­sen­ting them to partners. 

Pro­po­sals for legal­ly bin­ding mul­ti­la­te­ral and bila­te­ral trea­ties. The­se are the con­di­ti­ons for the gua­ran­tors to act, and the time­li­ne for their actions to bring results – results on land, at sea and in the air; in diplo­ma­cy and poli­tics, in eco­no­my and finan­ce, in pro­vi­ding wea­pons and intel­li­gence. Each of you, who will recei­ve the text of our peace for­mu­la will also see the details of what we offer as secu­ri­ty guarantees.

I do not want to com­pa­re our offers with the gua­ran­tees of any alli­an­ces that exist on the pla­net now. I want to stress that it is always much bet­ter to gua­ran­tee the secu­ri­ty of a nati­on, pre­ven­tively, rather than to stop a war after it has alrea­dy begun.

And the fifth item of the Ukrai­ni­an peace for­mu­la is deter­mi­na­ti­on. Some­thing without which the other four items will not work.

This is our deter­mi­na­ti­on to fight. This is the deter­mi­na­ti­on of the part­ners to help us, and also them­sel­ves. And this is the deter­mi­na­ti­on of the world to unite around the one who fights against armed aggres­si­on and to call to order the one who threa­tens all.

So, all five items of our formula: 

punish­ment for aggression;
pro­tec­tion of life;
res­to­ra­ti­on of secu­ri­ty and ter­ri­to­ri­al integrity;
secu­ri­ty guarantees;
and deter­mi­na­ti­on to defend oneself.
This is the for­mu­la of crime and punish­ment, which is alrea­dy well known to Rus­sia. And this is the for­mu­la of jus­ti­ce and law and order that Rus­sia has yet to learn. As well as any other poten­ti­al aggressors.

What is not in our for­mu­la? Neutrality.

Tho­se who speak of neu­tra­li­ty, when human values and peace are under attack, mean some­thing else. They talk about indif­fe­rence – ever­yo­ne for them­sel­ves. Here’s what they say. They pre­tend to be inte­res­ted in each other’s pro­blems. They take care of each other for­mal­ly. They sym­pa­thi­ze only for pro­to­col. And that is why they pre­tend to pro­tect someo­ne, but in rea­li­ty they pro­tect only their ves­ted inte­rests. This is what crea­tes the con­di­ti­ons for war. This is what needs to be cor­rec­ted in order to crea­te con­di­ti­ons for peace.

All you need is determination.

Oh es geht noch weiter!

The­re was a lot of tal­king about reforming the UN. How did it all end? No result.

If you look care­ful­ly at our peace for­mu­la, you will see that its imple­men­ta­ti­on is alrea­dy beco­m­ing a de-facto reform of the United Nati­ons. Our for­mu­la is uni­ver­sal, and unites the North and the South of the world. It calls for the world’s majo­ri­ty, and encou­ra­ges to expand the repre­sen­ta­ti­on of tho­se who remai­ned unheard. 

This is an imba­lan­ce when Afri­ca, Latin Ame­ri­ca, most of Asia, Cen­tral and Eas­tern Euro­pe com­ply with the right of veto, that they them­sel­ves never had.

And this is what Ukrai­ne is tal­king about. And have you ever heard such words from Rus­sia? But it is a per­ma­nent mem­ber of the Secu­ri­ty Coun­cil. For some rea­son. For what rea­son, not Japan or Bra­zil, not Tür­ki­ye or India, not Ger­ma­ny or Ukrai­ne. The day will come when this will be resolved.

As for the talks bet­ween Ukrai­ne and Russia. 

Pro­bab­ly you have hap­pen­ed to hear dif­fe­rent words from Rus­sia about the talks – as if they were rea­dy for them. But. They talk about the talks but announ­ce mili­ta­ry mobi­liz­a­ti­on. They talk about the talks but announ­ce pseu­do refe­ren­dums in the occu­p­ied ter­ri­to­ries of Ukraine.

What is true then? The mili­ta­ry mobi­liz­a­ti­on in Rus­sia is true. Sham refe­ren­dums are also true. Rus­sia wants war. It’s true. But Rus­sia will not be able to stop the cour­se of histo­ry. Man­kind and the inter­na­tio­nal law are stron­ger than one ter­ro­rist sta­te. Rus­sia will be for­ced to end this war. The war it has started.

I rule out that the sett­le­ment can hap­pen on a dif­fe­rent basis than the Ukrai­ni­an peace for­mu­la. The fur­ther the Rus­si­an ter­ror reaches, the less likely it is that anyo­ne in the world will agree to sit at one table with them.

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Also was bleibt?

Asso­zia­ti­on mit den fal­schen Leu­ten. Er ist zwei­mal (edit: drei­mal, drei­mal ist schon ungut…) bei einem rus­si­schen Pro­pa­gan­dis­ten per Video­schal­te aufgetreten.

Also muss man wohl das Event in Wien absagen.

Also nicht aus inhalt­li­chen Gründen --

son­dern weil die Ukrai­ni­sche Bot­schaft gegen­über der APA fol­gen­des erklärt hat:

Die Absa­ge des ÖGB folgt auf Kri­tik des ukrai­ni­schen Bot­schaf­ters Was­syl Chymy­nez, der man­che der ange­kün­dig­ten Teil­neh­mer der Ver­an­stal­tung als “Fünf­te Kolon­ne Russ­lands” bezeich­net hat­te. “In vor­lie­gen­den Papie­ren der Kon­fe­renz fehlt ein­deu­tig, dass ein nach­hal­ti­ger und umfas­sen­der Frie­den nur im Ein­klang mit dem Völ­ker­recht und der Befrei­ung aller von Russ­land besetz­ten Gebie­ten mög­lich ist”, hat­te Chymy­nez zudem am Mon­tag gegen­über der APA erklärt.

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Ein Stand­punkt den die MEHRHEIT der Öster­rei­cher NICHT vertritt.

Die Mehr­heit der Öster­rei­cher meint, die Ukrai­ne muss jetzt Frie­dens­ge­sprä­che füh­ren. Dafür sol­le, wenn nötig, besetz­te Gebie­te auf­ge­ge­ben werden.

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Zum Glück hat der ÖGB den Rück­zug des Ver­an­stal­tungs­or­tes auch nicht inhalt­lich begrün­det, denn --

Der ÖGB habe in den ver­gan­ge­nen Tagen eine Viel­zahl unter­schied­li­cher Infor­ma­tio­nen über die Ver­an­stal­tung, ihre Inhal­te und über die ein­ge­la­de­nen Gäs­te erhal­ten, sei jedoch lei­der nicht in der Lage, allen die­sen Hin­wei­sen nach­zu­ge­hen. “Wir haben uns zu kei­nem Zeit­punkt in die Ein­la­dungs­po­li­tik und Orga­ni­sa­ti­on die­ser Ver­an­stal­tung ein­ge­mischt und kön­nen daher auch nicht Stel­lung dazu neh­men”, erläu­ter­te der Spre­cher, der gleich­zei­tig beton­te, dass sich sei­ne Orga­ni­sa­ti­on seit dem Beginn des Kriegs zwei­fels­frei auf die Sei­te des ukrai­ni­schen Vol­kes gestellt habe.

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Lei­der eine Viel­zahl von Hin­wei­sen denen wir nicht nach­ge­hen können.

Einer unter die­ser Viel­zahl der Hin­wei­se kam von Attac Aus­tria die Kri­tik an dem Ent­wurf der Schluss­erklä­rung der Kon­fe­renz geäu­ßert hat­te, die­se auf Nach­fra­ge aber lei­der noch nicht begrün­den konnten…

Inhalt­li­che Fra­gen hat­ten bereits zuvor auch von Attac Aus­tria geäu­ßert, die am Diens­tag via Twit­ter erklärt hat­ten, nicht als Unter­stüt­zer der Ver­an­stal­tung auf­tre­ten zu wol­len. Die NGO hat­te in die­sem Zusam­men­hang auf den Ent­wurf der Schluss­erklä­rung der Kon­fe­renz ver­wie­sen und all­ge­mein erklärt, den rus­si­schen Angriffs­krieg und die Leug­nung des Exis­tenz­rechts der Ukrai­ne zu ver­ur­tei­len sowie das Recht des ukrai­ni­schen Vol­kes auf Selbst­ver­tei­di­gung anzu­er­ken­nen. Kon­kre­te Kri­tik am Ent­wurf selbst woll­te Attac am Mitt­woch nicht üben. “Ich kann ihnen zu einem nicht ver­öf­fent­lich­ten Doku­ment kei­ne Aus­kunft geben”, erklär­te Pres­se­spre­cher David Walch am Mitt­woch­nach­mit­tag auf APA-Nachfrage.

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Das macht dann dan­kens­wer­ter­wei­se die Wie­ner Zeitung:

In einem aktu­el­len Ent­wurf einer Schluss­erklä­rung, den die Ver­an­stal­ter der APA zur Ver­fü­gung stell­ten, wird der rus­si­sche Angriffs­krieg klar ver­ur­teilt, die huma­ni­tä­ren Aus­wir­kun­gen unter­stri­chen und zur Straf­ver­fol­gung bei Kriegs­ver­bre­chen aus­ge­ru­fen. Ähn­lich wie in der Ankün­di­gung des “Frie­dens­gip­fels” ist aber auch die Rede davon, dass die­se “ille­ga­le Inva­si­on” auf west­li­chen Plä­ne und Hand­lun­gen zur Erwei­te­rung der NATO fol­ge. Nicht expli­zit ver­langt wird im Ent­wurf ein Abzug rus­si­scher Trup­pen aus der Ukrai­ne. Die For­de­rung nach einem sofor­ti­gen Waf­fen­still­stand könn­te als impli­zi­te Zustim­mung zu rus­si­schen Gebiets­ge­win­nen inter­pre­tiert wer­den. “Wir set­zen kei­ne Kon­tu­ren einer end­gül­ti­gen Lösung fest, denn dies muss der Kraft, Mut und Visi­on der Kon­flikt­par­tei­en über­las­sen wer­den”, heißt es im Text.

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Was Mit­ver­ant­wor­tung der NATO?! Sowas kann man ja nicht brin­gen! Doch, im Eco­no­mist - Mit­te letz­ten Jah­res… (vor Butscha)

The Eco­no­mist -

John Mear­s­hei­mer on why the West is princi­pal­ly respon­si­ble for the Ukrai­ni­an crisis

Im Robert Schuh­man Cen­ter, eben­falls Mear­s­hei­mer - (nach Butscha)

Und die for­dern Waf­fen­still­stands­ver­hand­lun­gen jetzt? Das könn­te ja dahin­ge­hend inter­pre­tiert wer­den, dass die Ukrai­ne die Krim nicht zurück­be­kommt, auch wenn man es nicht for­dert, son­dern den Kon­flikt­par­tei­en über­läßt! Das kann man ja nicht sagen!

Doch im Spie­gel­in­ter­view die­se Woche:

Also was ist es jetzt? Schul­dig durch Asso­zia­ti­on, gegen­über Sachs, weil er zu oft beim fal­schen Medi­enout­let auf­ge­tre­ten ist?

Und im Bru­no Krei­sky Forum? Und bei Demo­cra­zy Now. Und in Alp­bach. Und im Ber­kley Center.

Von dem der Ver­an­stal­ter noch nicht ein­mal weiß ob er kommt?

Kri­tik am Abschluss­be­richt die man nicht spe­zi­fi­zie­ren kann und der laut der Wie­ner Zei­tung aber auch zu Unguns­ten der Ukrai­ne aus­ge­legt wer­den könn­te (Gebiets­auf­ga­ben?). Was im Abschluss­be­richt aber nicht expli­zit drin­nen steht? (Die Kon­flikt­par­tei­en müss­ten selbst entscheiden.)

Ver­tre­tung von Mehr­heits­po­si­tio­nen der Öster­rei­chi­schen Bevölkerung?

Aus­la­dung, auch wenn wir lei­der nicht prü­fen konn­ten war­um, sie­he ÖGB?

Oder doch Pres­se­club Con­cordia - Danie­la Kraus, Sachs habe sich instru­men­ta­li­sie­ren las­sen. Durch Video­auf­trit­te beim fal­schen Out­let. Des­halb darf man sei­ne Posi­tio­nen ja nicht mehr ernst nehmen.

Sein Wiki­pe­dia Arti­kel ist sicher voll damit! 

Im Juni 2022 unter­zeich­ne­te Sachs einen offe­nen Brief, in dem er zu einem Waf­fen­still­stand auf­rief und die anhal­ten­de mili­tä­ri­sche Unter­stüt­zung der west­li­chen Län­der für die Ukrai­ne in Fra­ge stell­te. Er mach­te die USA für den Krieg in der Ukrai­ne ver­ant­wort­lich und behaup­te­te, die US-Regierung habe den Sturz von Prä­si­dent Vik­tor Janu­ko­witsch im Jahr 2014 her­bei­ge­führt und dann habe die NATO-Erweiterung zur Ein­krei­sung Russ­lands geführt.[12]

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Ein­krei­sung Russ­lands? Moment, das ist doch gar­nicht Sachs Posi­ti­on… Click auf Fuss­no­te 12.

In late 2021, Putin rei­tera­ted Russia’s demand for no fur­ther enlar­ge­ment of NATO, espe­cial­ly to Ukrai­ne. The US refu­sed to nego­tia­te over NATO enlar­ge­ment. NATO Secretary-General Jens Stol­ten­berg pro­vo­ca­tively sta­ted at the time that Rus­sia would have no say in the mat­ter, and that only NATO mem­bers would deci­de whe­ther or not to encir­cle Rus­sia in the Black Sea. 

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Encir­cle­ment of Rus­sia in the black sea - na das ist doch das Selbe…

Und Moment, die Nato soll pro­vo­ziert haben?

Nein - doch nicht die Nato!

Was war eigent­lich US und Nato Posi­ti­on im Novem­ber 2021

On the con­ten­tious issue of when to res­to­re Ukrai­ni­an con­trol of the inter­na­tio­nal bor­der, which Rus­sia insists must come at the end of the pro­cess, the United Sta­tes and Ukrai­ne would offer as a com­pro­mi­se the inter­na­tio­na­liz­a­ti­on of the occu­p­ied ter­ri­to­ries as a tran­si­tio­nal mea­su­re. [== total retre­at, then total ter­ri­to­ri­al gain for Ukrai­ne] This would inclu­de a neu­tral peace­kee­ping for­ce to take the place of Russian-led for­ces and mili­ti­as insi­de Don­bas and an inte­rim inter­na­tio­nal civi­li­an admi­nis­tra­ti­on to replace the self-declared people’s repu­blics. The inter­na­tio­nal pre­sence would res­to­re nor­mal gover­nan­ce, estab­lish pro­fes­sio­nal local poli­ce for­ces, over­see the return of refu­gees, and orga­ni­ze local elec­tions in con­di­ti­ons con­sis­tent with OSCE standards.

Alt­hough Rus­sia may be slow to enga­ge on the initia­ti­ve, it would demons­tra­te US and Ukrai­ni­an rea­di­ness for a genui­ne com­pro­mi­se to end the war in eas­tern Ukrai­ne. It would be con­sis­tent with the Minsk frame­work but intro­du­ce imple­men­ta­ti­on mecha­nisms that are absent from the ori­gi­nal Minsk docu­ments. [You mean the frame­work is simi­lar, the imple­men­ta­ti­on is not?]

If Rus­sia agreed to end the Don­bas con­flict on this basis and imple­men­ted its side of the deal in good faith, the United Sta­tes and its allies would be able to sca­le back the pro­vi­si­on of let­hal wea­pons to Kyiv. Such an agree­ment would open the way to the lif­ting of Donbas-related sanc­tions and resump­ti­on of coope­ra­ti­on bet­ween Rus­sia and NATO that could help defu­se Rus­si­an anxie­ties about Ukraine’s rela­ti­ons­hip with NATO over the lon­ger term.

Gütig, oder? Und das wor­d­ing erst, wem kommt das noch bekannt vor?

Moreo­ver, bey­ond Putin’s pur­por­ted secu­ri­ty con­cerns, Ukrai­ne is a high­ly emo­tio­nal issue for him. His state­ments and pseudo-historical wri­tings make clear that he res­ents Ukraine’s inde­pen­dence, ques­ti­ons its legi­ti­ma­cy as a sov­er­eign sta­te, dis­pu­tes Ukrai­ni­ans’ exis­tence as a sepa­ra­te peop­le, and is outra­ged by Kyiv’s refu­sal to accept Rus­si­an hegemony.

Mei­ne Güte, der “ver­rück­te Putin” ist auch schon so alt?

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NATO PK vom 01.12.2021:

We will call on the allies to join Ukrai­ne in put­ting tog­e­ther a deter­rence packa­ge,” Kule­ba told repor­ters as he arri­ved for the talks in Riga.

This should inclu­de pre­pa­ring eco­no­mic sanc­tions against Rus­sia, in case it “deci­des to choo­se the worst-case sce­n­a­rio”, Kule­ba said, adding that NATO should also boost mili­ta­ry and defence coope­ra­ti­on with Ukraine.

We are con­fi­dent that if we join efforts if we act in a coor­di­na­ted fashion, we will be able to deter Pre­si­dent Putin and to demo­ti­va­te him from choo­sing the worst-case sce­n­a­rio, which is a mili­ta­ry ope­ra­ti­on,” Kule­ba said.

Ja sag mal, die Posi­ti­on kenn ich ja auch…

Rus­sia has no veto. Rus­sia has no say. And Rus­sia has no right to estab­lish a sphe­re of influ­ence, try­ing to con­trol their neigh­bours,” Stol­ten­berg told repor­ters, poun­ding his podium.

The argu­ments are not new in essence and do not pre­su­me a rea­di­ness for NATO to enlar­ge. Most NATO mem­bers see risks rather than advan­ta­ges in enlar­ging the alli­an­ce in what Moscow sees as its backyard.

Just the ques­ti­on is reflec­ting some­thing, which I think we should be very much awa­re of, that is not accep­ta­ble – and that is that Rus­sia has a sphe­re of influ­ence,” the NATO chief retorted.

They try to re-establish some kind of accep­t­ance that Rus­sia has the right to con­trol what neigh­bours do, or not do,” Stol­ten­berg said.

I think that tells more about Rus­sia than about NATO,” he added.

The argu­ment that Rus­sia has no right to have a sphe­re of influ­ence is likely to infu­ria­te Moscow. Seni­or US pun­dits have argued in the recent past that “Rus­sia needs its buffers”.

This idea that NATO’s sup­port to a sov­er­eign nati­on is the pro­vo­ca­ti­on, is just wrong. It’s to respect the sov­er­eig­n­ty and the will of the Ukrai­ni­an peop­le,” he said, adding that Ukrai­ne is an inde­pen­dent sta­te, its bor­ders must be safe and its neigh­bours must not vio­la­te them.

We do not want to go back to the world in which sta­tes were limi­ted by sphe­res of influ­ence of super­powers”, he empha­sis­ed, ans­we­ring the ques­ti­on about Russia’s reac­tion to the pos­si­ble acces­si­on of Ukraine.

[…]

For his part, Stol­ten­berg repeated his warning on Wed­nes­day that any future Rus­si­an aggres­si­on against Ukrai­ne would come at a ‘high pri­ce’ and have serious poli­ti­cal and eco­no­mic con­se­quen­ces for Moscow.

The 30 NATO allies tog­e­ther repre­sent more than 50% of the glo­bal economy.

We have a wide ran­ge of opti­ons to make sure that Rus­sia will be con­fron­ted with serious con­se­quen­ces if they once again use for­ce against an inde­pen­dent sov­er­eign nati­on, Ukrai­ne,” Stol­ten­berg told repor­ters in Riga.

Ever­ything from eco­no­mic sanc­tions, finan­cial sanc­tions, poli­ti­cal restric­tions, but also, as we saw after 2014 when they ille­gal­ly anne­xed Cri­mea … that actual­ly trig­ge­red the big­gest rein­for­ce­ment of our collec­ti­ve defence sin­ce the end of the Cold War,” Stol­ten­berg said.

We don’t know whe­ther Pre­si­dent Putin has made the decisi­on to inva­de” Ukrai­ne, US Secreta­ry of Sta­te Antho­ny Blin­ken said, but added that “if Rus­sia inva­des Ukrai­ne… we will be pre­pa­red to act” with high-level eco­no­mic sanc­tions and other measures.

It’s important that Rus­sia under­stands this, Blin­ken stres­sed, adding that the US will make sure Ukrai­ne has the means to defend itself.

We’ve seen this play­book befo­re in 2014 when Rus­sia last inva­ded Ukrai­ne, then as now they signi­fi­cant­ly incre­a­sed com­bat for­ces near the bor­der,” Blin­ken said.

Then as now, they inten­si­fied dis­in­for­ma­ti­on that Ukrai­ne is the aggres­sor to jus­ti­fied pre-planned mili­ta­ry action,” he added.

Blin­ken will meet with Rus­si­an For­eign Minis­ter Ser­gey Lav­rov in Stock­holm on Thursday.

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The argu­ment that Rus­sia has no right to have a sphe­re of influ­ence is likely to infu­ria­te Moscow. Seni­or US pun­dits have argued in the recent past that “Rus­sia needs its buffers”.

Schrieb sei­ner­zeit das “berühm­te Pro­pa­gan­da Out­let eurac­tiv”, als Teil des Euro­pe Medi­aL­abs.

Aber der ÖGB konn­te lei­der auf­grund der Viel­zahl an Anfra­gen die ihn erreicht haben nicht prü­fen wie es um den Sach­ver­halt bestellt ist.

Na gut, machs ich halt für ihn. Ist ja kein Ding.

edit: Sor­ry - muss­te noch ein­mal rein um Pariah zu sagen…

Vor vier Wochen bei Robert Wright. Irgend so nem reli­giö­sen Pariah, der mal für den Pulit­zer Preis nomi­niert war, und für The New Yor­ker, The New York Times, Time, Wired, The Inter­cept, The Wall Street Jour­nal, and Sla­te geschrie­ben hat.

Pariah. (edit: Fal­schen Video­link erwischt, korrigiert.)

Wer hier Sar­kas­mus fin­det, darf ihn behalten.









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