Also ich hätt mir das nie denkt. Wer hätt sich das denkt?
Die UvdL ja keinesfalls. Niemand hätt sich das denkt.
In July last year, Ukrainska Pravda first reported that the apartment of President Volodymyr Zelensky’s friend and co-owner of the Kvartal-95 studio, Timur Mindich, was wiretapped by the NABU and the SAPO.
At the time, many were skeptical about this information. However, in November, when anti-corruption activists released the first fragments of the “Mindich tapes” as part of Operation Midas, it became clear not only that the wiretapping of the apartment at 9 Hrushevsky Street existed, but also that a number of top officials were caught on tape.
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Keine Angst, von da an gehts nur ne Stunde… für Part 1
Und keine Angst, die Ukrainska Prawda ist da vollkommen on top of it!
We will not make any big announcements, understanding how long Ukrainian society has been waiting for the details of this extraordinary story. As well as answers to important questions: how did this become possible and what conclusions did the authorities draw to make it impossible for ” barriers “, abuse of power and corruption to exist. Corruption at the highest level.
As we were able to establish, the relevant materials, including large fragments of recordings of documented conversations, have long been attached to the procedural documents provided to the defense.
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edit: Die Kiev Post macht die Arbeit der anderen.
The newly published “Mindich tapes” – intercepted conversations from July 2025 – allegedly capture Mindich speaking with former presidential adviser Serhiy Shefir, then-Defense Minister Rustem Umerov, and a construction manager linked to an elite housing project near Kyiv.
In one recording, Mindich and Shefir discuss former minister Oleksiy Chernyshov, who was under investigation for illicit enrichment at the time. The two appear to reference helping cover his Hr.120 million ($3 million) bail and mention a shared “cash pool.”
Half of that bail was paid by a private company whose director later denied any knowledge of the transaction.
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Other parts of the tapes focus on luxury real estate. Mindich is heard discussing construction work at a gated development known as “Dynastia,” where homes were reportedly being built for senior officials and political insiders.
The most sensitive exchange involves Umerov, now secretary of Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council.
In the recording, he and Mindich discuss defense industry funding, international contacts, and a potential reshuffle in Ukraine’s leadership – including replacing Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal as defense minister.
Mindich also appears to talk about investments in long-range combat drones produced by the company Fire Point, while complaining about lack of state funding.
In one of the conversations, he said that all the money had been invested in “1, 5, and 7.”
“‘First, fifth, seventh’ refer to FP-1, FP-5, and FP-7 — models of long-range strike drones produced by Fire Point. According to multiple investigations, Timur Mindich may be one of the company’s beneficiaries,” investigator Mykhailo Tkach said.
In another moment, he pressures Umerov to resolve issues with body armor supplies that the military had refused to accept.
Ukrainian investigators have previously said a company linked to Mindich tried to sell low-quality, foreign-made armor disguised as Western products – claims the defense ministry ultimately rejected.
Umerov has denied any improper influence, saying his meetings with suppliers were routine and that problematic contracts were canceled. He is currently a witness in the case.
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Passt - ich OCR noch das Umerov Gespräch und mach dann Feierabend.
edit: Mindich mit Umerov:
And who’s simply here? Well, the *** who do things, and not just carry out the command: yes/ got it/ will be done.
And to appoint Shmyhal – I think that’s ***.
Well, I told him this: if you trust him,
Shmyhal?
that will just weaken you.
Well yes, because that’s David, that’s… it will happen.
Well, simply, well, in half a year to a year you’ll already be…
He’ll already be, well, half a year to a year, yes, like a secondary part of the sentence. He’ll be able to play already. He’ll be strong.
Do you understand what the problem is?
We need… everything today
has been produced, so to speak,
you’re not paying, temporarily.
We’re ready to give all the goods away, no question, he talked about that too – hand it all over, I say we’ll hand everything over,
but tomorrow our plant will stop, tomorrow we’ll be paralyzed, meaning there won’t be contracts for the twenty,
we’ve, we’ve, I don’t know about everyone, we invested all our profit into the first, into the five and into the seven.
Into the seven, yes.
Well, we don’t have that kind of money, you understand, our profit is 20%.
He buys the seven, buys the five, and that’s it – one person buys.
Uh-huh.
Yes, but we need – we’re not asking – we need current financing to produce everything, that’s minus 120. As of today, they owe us seven.
And nobody is doing anything, so that’s minus 120. Can we produce? We can. Can we produce the U-b? We can. But we… but, you understand, we’re stretched so thin, well ***.
They, today and tomorrow, will still be signing contracts to ask us to sign
with you, and payment goes through.
Right now we’re asking partners: 1 billion will come somehow, I can see. Not quickly. Even if I twist all my possibilities there – 1-2,
Okay.
I need 5, but I can manage 5.
Just a little, you know, somehow, there are 2,000 people working there, today we need to buy these engines, we’re not asking for our profit,
we can’t pull out the working capital, we don’t have that, you understand – this is the company, we’re giving everything.
So, missiles and so on for 5-6 billion – that’s a lot, brother. I understand everything, but that’s a lot.
It’s like you all come to the Stavka and start saying: we need, we need, we need, and they get mad at me.
Well, the task is to somehow build a relationship with him…
I’m going to the UAE. Masha blew my mind. No, I’m going with them to Rome, to meet with the Americans.
And you’re coming back on Friday?
For one day. The President of the UAE has been
for three weeks already… a minister, kind of… with… I put
this Masha there as the contact.
I said: look, I’m not getting into commerce, he probably wants to get some 100% approval, confirmation,
that he’s in the know.
He’s never in his life… he says: well, I see it’s no longer the time to refuse, for three weeks already you can’t
refuse when they’re asking.
That’s the East. Yes. I say: Vladimir Alexandrovich, I say, I have no subject there, there are three companies,
they met, I say, we need to ask the final outcome,
maybe they want the Austrian, but 100% he wants to hear from me whether I’m aware and how to proceed. I say, it’s just awkward for me, he’s such a high-caliber guy,
and he’s the main one, and if he’s been asking for three weeks – it’s just not comme il faut anymore.
He says: okay. I say: quickly, one day there and back, I’ll hear him out and fly back.
About nothing, brother.
I wanted to ask you: are they doing anything in this track or is it all about nothing?
We’re ready, we want to, all that, but it doesn’t look like they are. It looks like they want to understand what we have, information, that kind of spy game.
They’re dangling a carrot like this. Well, you can’t not fly there, what difference does it make.
How can he at least explain himself?
Well, what, we’re ready, if… we’ll sell, we’ll give everything, they need from you that you give permission.
So we’re a real company, what we said – we did everything. They value the company like this. They want 33%.
They already said that?
Yes, yes, there is an offer. Out of the 33% they want to invest 60% into the company and 40%, well, we can agree on a 50% cash-out.
How’s that? Explain again. So they valued it…
Yes. They want to buy at least, yes, at least 33%.
The parent company. Well, that’s 600.
Yes, that’s 600. Out of that, 300 they want to go into the company, and 300 – cash-out, well, to the company’s shareholders.
What would suit us?
Well, if they… On Sunday, what we talked about – it’s not ***, I think that in a year we’ll be worth twice as much money.
We don’t have ballistics, we don’t have long-range, we don’t have a contract for 120 thousand today, right?
We don’t have any of that, but this parachute is better for us, that there’s someone foreign, we reinsure ourselves and so on, etc.
Yes. Okay, let’s now move to ours. You’ll leave now, you’ll have *** all over the place. On the vests, we’ll have minus 7 million. For me.
Well, I’m not alone.
So here, Fire Point, competitors can just lay it down like this,
stop paying now and that’s it, you’ll take the goods now, yes, yes, yes, give a new prepayment and I’ll be in trouble.
You’ll leave now, they’ll sweep everyone away, we won’t have a single person left there, no one to communicate with.
Today it’s standing.
I beg you, call all these people together.
Maybe open export-import? But what will it give, I don’t know.
Open export?
Yes.
That’s normal. Defense City is giving it, after all.
From August 1st…, from the 1st, the 24th of August
you’ll have export.
Then at least all these production facilities will work for me, you understand. Besides the fact that they’ll *** us sooner or later.
Can we open MFP there?
You can. We need to sell it. Import is better.
Look, we are a problem for them, for the Americans,
because if you get money today, our country, and the country contracts what it wants to contract from FP
to the Americans, i.e. we can crank out ballistics, more than they can, not less than they can.
Our ballistics price is 8 times cheaper than theirs, i.e. ours will cost, I don’t know, 1.5, their ballistic missile costs 7, the very first one 5.
How many ballistic missiles per year? For next year, is it possible?
We can make a thousand, five thousand missiles, look, that’s not… we’ve got mixers up the ***.
If you give us money today, an order, along with the ability for banks to lend to us, contract and prepayment – we have to open up,
we have to open up today in other places,
we can’t keep hiding in Kyiv,
but it takes time, we can’t, she has to be pregnant for 9 months, no matter how you spin it.
We can make 7,000 ballistic missiles, I think.
Per year.
2.5 of those will go this year, long-range, out of these 7.
Look, the long-range will go, we’re financing the long-range ourselves, if you drain us dry now, what’s happening now,
i.e. someone, not you, I’m not talking about you, some competitor of ours at a low level, for example, with the vests. Know what happened with the vests?
We won the tender, lowered the price, and all vests work on prepayment, we brought them with our own money, we’ve already brought them,
they’ve been lying in the warehouse for three months,
and they won’t accept them.
Same thing here, where will we run now, you understand we have a big machine, i.e. we need to invest 150 million into ballistics, no problem.
If you’ve signed contracts, if you gave us for FP-1 we’ll invest all that money, we haven’t pulled out a single ruble for ourselves, i.e. we’re investing everything into the country.
We need money. Or contracts. Contracts, banks, an investor.
An investor… look, with money it’ll be exactly on the 17th, if no one helps.
Except for the 17th.
The 17th of what? July?
So that’s waiting 10 days, that’s…
July.
The 17th, and I’m only counting on that now.
Well, we’ll hold out, 10 days, how much money will you give us?
311 billion is everything.
For us?
Well, that’s for you, I’ll tell you now how much.
Okay, we’ll run further then.
That’s how it should be.
Yes. If you pay, we…
I’ve just already understood that no one will help with anything, so I’ll go again…
Call the bank, take…
Already called.
Did you call Pyshnyi?
He’s just not in the country.
Ah. Call Sense. It can be done through the Cabinet. There are three options he asked for. It can be done through the Cabinet.
Say, if you’re doing all of this now. Please, don’t leave, the bulletproof vests are big money.
Well, the bulletproof vests, we just were tied up in finances, honestly I didn’t get to it.
Just let them sign the acceptance. That’s all. It’s just one phone call for you.
Just say, “I don’t want to hear about bulletproof vests from Timur anymore, and I meet with him twice a week.”
Interesting.
It’s just one command from you and that’s it.
Tell me, can you appoint Mykola somewhere, the one I brought to you, Chumak. He’s a competent guy, he’ll help me with everything there.
Today he’s standing with us in this…
And where can you place him?
Well, I need to talk to him.
He’s all right. A bit simple.
Very brainy, tenacious, everything will be… Know how much salary he asked for? Well, what do you think?
Two thousand?… Well, because it’s clear
he’s a military man (laughs).
For three, he says, I’ll tear for the Motherland, I’ll go to the trenches for the Motherland. Well, you know how much Igor, how much all these ours get – 50, well, what’s that. 50. Masha gets 20. Ira 50.
Are you already giving to Masha?
Well, now I want to come to an agreement with her, yes. Well, so what, she pushed through Defense City and that’s it. And she’ll go to the Emirates.
I’ve been so harsh with her, legally, I say you never *** finish, always in process, why, I say, ***, it’s just hard for me to tell you, I *** *** their ideas, you *** start beautiful things…
Rustem, 90% of it is that I had Khmelyov removed… Look, the company has 2,000 people, 60 managers, all these *** negotiations with everyone, wiping up after everyone, no one *** finishes anything.
There are three people who can. Masha is like that too, when needed. Tell me, should I take her or not? For me, she’s not…
who knows, look, it’s just
because she’s your person.
No, no, look, I asked her, like, Masha, what do you want at the end of your life?
Just explain what you want.
She couldn’t say anything.
Let’s decide about Masha. For me, Masha…
What’s her… What do we have for her at all?
I don’t know.
She just lives there, are we paying her a salary?
I’m not paying her anything at all yet.
You’re paying her.
What else should we discuss?
Well, we were supposed to discuss that it would have been better if you’d stayed. Here, for a year.
Finish everything you’re doing here and *** stay here, in a resource, like this. In the team. If not – go to America.
You could open at least this there, make a Space Center there.
Thats Masha btw. Keep me informed where she ended up, boys. 🙂

edit: First 20 minutes captured and translated (Finereader and Deepseek V4), thats most of - Mindich with Serhiy Shefir here:
I talked to him
I talked to him yesterday
I was at Lyosha’s yesterday
when?
yesterday? I talked to Oleg today, as I understand it, everything’s fine. Like, Lyosha has some agrarians who will officially close it
there’s a little bit there
Oleg says… I have everything…
(whispering, indistinct)
agreed
so… well, what about officially…
who will contribute?
well, the agrarians, right…
no, there isn’t that much there… there are agrarians, as I understand it now, Sveta put in 40 and 10
no, if everything’s okay with him, then… the whole story itself is abnormal.
Well, as I understand it, they’re already downsizing the ministry, I just read it.
no, the court is this week… it’s such a thing, I think they’ll suspend him today
no
no, come on, what are you saying? Those are rumors… he has to be… some kind of court
maybe we should call Lyosha?
no, what are you talking about, I spoke with him
yes
I was at his place yesterday around nine-thirty in the evening, I got there in the evening
I talked to him earlier yesterday
I told him, if you have the official part, then unofficially we’ll all pitch in, we’ll chip in
nah, well, from the cash register
I told him I’d also give from myself… I don’t have those kinds of people
well, I said, let’s agree, I say 30 (indistinct) if you say so, then I’ll go… we have to talk, right
yes… but he told me, what are you saying, he told me last night, at 10 in the evening, unofficially there is,
only they need to give it to them
he also said that this… I say, well, okay, if there’s no global solution, then I’m ready to chip in from myself too, I say, if you want it to work out that way, then you need to talk to everyone…
you won’t do it officially, will you?
I can do it officially… somewhere around 10 million I can do, but it will just be linked… well, it will be *** much more expensive…
no, no, don’t do it officially…
I think they’re deciding…
yes
well, I’ll also… this evening
because I… Butkevich
Butkevich is coming back, and tomorrow I’ll talk to him, I need to understand.
I don’t think Butkevich will want to participate officially… The whole story is really ***, of course…
well, as he says, it’s like there’s no case
no, well, it’s clear it’s going to fall apart… but how did they let it get to this?
he says that, yes, that Lyosh, look, there’s nothing like that here… there’s no Yanukovych, no Kuchma, none of those times
(whispering) strange…
what’s happening today, isn’t it strange?
everything is strange
yes
this is some kind of ***… they’re driving around, drilling, ***, it’s some kind of *** surreal
where are they drilling? Here?
well, of course
yes
you know about this?
yes. They’ve analyzed the entire parking lot again… every day… I don’t know, but they’re terrorizing everyone… and what about what they’re writing?
Well, this is already some kind of *** ***
a friend told me, officially no, but if anything, I’ll help unofficially
(whispering) Chernyshev?
(whispering) good for him
I said, if it’s unofficial, I think we can manage on our own,
but – thank you
(whispering) just respect
I haven’t talked to Butkevich yet, he’s coming back today at 7, well, it’s not convenient in the office. I just calmed down a bit because Oleg tells me…
Oleg says it’s there
that everything is there and it seems Lyosha also officially settled with someone, he’s just checking that there are no swindlers, you know… well, good.
I could stop by Lyosha’s in the evening and talk again, if you want, let’s go
nah, why flash ourselves there? I’ll call, I’ll call him
I’m not afraid, honestly. I have relationships… tomorrow Aristov is celebrating his birthday at “Fabius”, that’s… That’s more dangerous
that’s true… what is “Fabius”?
across from the Dynamo base… they do it in restaurants?… well, I’ll stop by, congratulate him, and leave
well, like that, you’ll end up in a cell
true
well, yes
whether you sit or not
what’s the difference
no, well, to sit and celebrate…
yeah
ah, will all the deputies be there?
all the shot-down and the not-shot-down will be there… how do I know who will be there, deputies will be there too
ah, will all the deputies be there?
yes
, I don’t understand
was in Dnipro… (whispering) they’re telling me not to be here, a lot
“here” where?
well, in general (indistinct), that they’re actively after me…
no… maybe
yes
and what about you,
yes
did you talk to Vova?
yes
maybe
I talked to Vova before Shabbat, before all this with Chernyshov… uh-huh…
was he supposed to come back?
he says…, it’s all some kind of, everything’s ***, well
so Sveta is here
she was leaving, wasn’t she?
yeah
well
no, she didn’t go anywhere
no, she was leaving, they wrote about it
but *** happened when he came back, thank God he came back
I didn’t even imagine he might not come back
well, listen, that’s a deed too.
No, well of course he has to come back, what other option is there?
but the case is fabricated ***, really, what’s it about? That he sold an apartment to some employee at cost price, well, with a discount at the time… this employee lives there, renovated it, he lives in it
yes, but it’s like… and some book and some billion-dollar losses or something, that he…
not 14, but 6 apartments…
well… but it’s all made up…
but it works, what difference does it make – it works…
they might suspend him too…
well, if now… no, they won’t suspend him.
if they topple the Cabinet now, then they topple the Cabinet and that’s it… will they topple the Cabinet or not?
I’ll meet Butkevich tomorrow, but before that I need to talk to Lyosha, what about him?
Thank God Butkevich was on a business trip and didn’t say anything to them.
Otherwise Lyosha called me and says: “they mentioned Butkevich”, and yesterday he says, well, that name was heard. I say, well Lyosha, I don’t have a mandate yet, I can’t…
here you’ll say yes… I’ll give everything I can from myself for sure… or we need to coordinate
Lyosha is not a poor man himself,
they seized everything from him anyway
yes
to put it mildly
no, still, they seized what was declared, but the other stuff… I think, Lyosha, given the scale of how he lives, the fleet of cars, the fleet of servants, a house like that…
it’s rented, though…
well, rented, but you understand
around 10 thousand
yes
how much does it cost, the rent, I asked him: “are you going to chip in yourself?” he says: “well, of course, I already gave 2 people 20 million each”
1
but these are your people, you were there
I didn’t want to…
yes
did something, I think I did something…
he’s basically nothing… karma
exactly
I don’t want to either
you know, in this situation to talk now – it’s not classy, ***, did you need those 6 apartments… come on…
I don’t really believe it
(whispering) 100 percent, the fact that he gobbled up, 6 or 26, or…
first, it’s not honest if you’re on a team, then you…
with me, Kisel and Sova, if something happens somewhere – here, I immediately said 50% comes here…
yes… not my style
no, it’s not honest
did they agree on something?
was he worried??
and at some point when he… on this, on Tatarov,
Yes
such… karma
yes, nothing, the Lord is no sucker
so he says, let me pay from these accounts
they won’t let him… Smirnov called me,
well, I called him to consult, what… so they didn’t give him arrest, but just bail right away.
And he: everything is correct, that’s how it is, and if he doesn’t post bail, there will be a court hearing and they’ll choose a measure of restraint – arrest.
deputy prime minister ***, representing the country ***, abroad, meeting with presidents, with ***, with all sorts of top leadership of the country…
how do you *** ***, even if there’s a case ***, *** it’s a million hryvnias or 12 million, 6 apartments… well, why do this… here, make a case, investigate it…
until the end of the war, well, objectively, what are they doing?
objectively, everything’s going to fall apart there… but Smirnov told me his lawyers are weak,
my opinion… and I told Lyosha that his lawyers are weak. He says, I know they’re weak, this one gave
And that one says he didn’t take his lawyers
we’re changing… did you talk to AB
not AB, I talked to Oleg, a long time ago (indistinct) I offered him my lawyers, he didn’t take them, but that was before all this…
he says he took them now, but now he’s changing them, because they’re weak… ah, *** knows, they’ll sort it out
well, so-so…
well, just when this one wanted… (whispering) they appointed a prosecutor
when he wants – he does… here this one is steering everything, as I understand… well, it’s clear,
…he was meeting, well… he sat there silently
no, the Projectile told him…
Well
I understand who there’s hope on,
he tells him?
yes
and who not so much
no, I understand
Nothing else is going to happen here at all… I took your leading position
you were the one who started
yes
I’m not doing anything… objectively… I’m not meeting with anyone, not giving any commands, not taking any money…
well, ***, what a pal, some kind of telepath externally managing some ministry… it’s just unpleasant… if you like to ride, you have to carry the sled
if you didn’t ride?
we’re on a team
yes… I wrote to Vova, and he said nothing
yeah
and have they arrived?
yeah
I don’t know… and where did they go?
yes
The German Foreign Minister arrived today,
I think he is there
had a good trip, met with Trump
well, NABU is on a rampage
yes
and it’s rampaging along the President’s line
nah
well, what is this? Not the presidential team?… And *** how many prosecutors, cops ***… it was clear, clear and clear again
the happiest person
it’s good that I think I wouldn’t have gotten involved anywhere even if I were,
but I’m still glad
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