Cant listen to that audio quality with proper headphones, all you hear is gating, compression artefacts and a fucking cut up mid section.
So as for the content of the video, I dont know yet - cant get over that blue T-Shirt wearing PR victims audio setup.
Here is how you get a better one: You kick that DJI crap into the dumpster and buy a Rode Wireless GOII or Pro, or anything that doesnt sound like crap really (Lavelier clones, wired). Or you at least turn the low cut filter on the DJI off - to not sound like utter crap:
Explaination and audio samples:
Fuck, now I have to listen to that crap sound quality for another 21 Minutes…
Idiot.
edit: Content wise, its fine. Not much new stuff, but a proper summarization.
that Holger Stark, Deputiy Editor-In-Chief of Die Zeit gave to Democracy now. [A man whose esprit an joy has left him years ago judging by his public performance on alternative US television. I mean could those eyes of a severly broken and closed up personality, hiding behind professional formalism, lie? I had to find out.]
Moderator: I wanna go to president Biden. In February of 2022 he holds a news conference - a joint one with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and Biden brings up the future of the Nordstream Pipeline. [Clip is being played.]
Biden: “If Russia invades uh that means tanks or troops crossing the uh the the border of Ukraine again, then uh there will be uh we, there will be no longer a Nordsteam 2. We we will bring an end to it.
Journalist: “What do, what, how would you, how will you do that exactly - since the project and control of the project is within Germany’s control?
Biden: “We will uh I promise you we’ll be able to do it.”
Moderator: “We promise you we’ll be able to do it” - your response [Holger Stark]. Holger Stark “Well you can read this in two ways uh you can read this uh in a threat of military action, but also you can read it in a a sense of a political action, diplomatic pressure and I mean we all remember those days, starting with the Trump Administration by the way uh where the US uh government um clearly wanted the Germans to stop with that project to stop nordstream as a pipeline because that pipeline bypassed Ukraine um uh it made Ukraine dispensable um it was a direct connection between Russia and Germany, it was a direct trade of gas between the two countries and it started with in the Trump Administration that they executed a lot of power um diplomatic pressure on on Germany, um so did the Biden Administration in the beginning - but also have in mind Amy, that um later on um President Biden released the sanctions pressure against Germany he cut some kind of political deal with the German government especially with a German chancellor Olaf Schultz - those two guys got along really well and um I read it the way that Biden said when it comes to the worst when Russia is indeed in invading Ukraine, we will make sure with our German partners that this gas transport is no longer existing so it’s not a threat of military action in my in my opinion but a threat to use any diplomatic uh means to stop that…
Well thats the head of Die Zeits Investigative unit, so -- lets factcheck this believe a little, right?
I mean aside from the common knowledge fact, that germany didnt stop the gas flow, russia did. At first.
Enter US-Ukraine Security Dialogue 2021 - Day 1:
starting at 2hours 30 min in with great Ukrainian Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksander Lytvynenko [or as the Focus would put that - Ukrainians Spy chief. Back then of course he was just another fledgling upstart and gladhander in all things “I so wonderful, great event, I believe more support is needed” trying to piggybag off US policy (describing his role in that panel, if you dont believe it, watch it.)], as well as Stephen Blank (Senior Fellow at FPRI’s Eurasia Program) -- you know this FPRI:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASlS-jBWWGA (0 deaths through drone attacks from Kursk in Sumy in the past 3 months, statistically - 1 a year.)
Also compair and contrast with:
Moderator feeds the expert the ukrainian propaganda line.
King’s College London expert tells him: “Well, there are a couple of military aims, its probably not so much the creation of a buffer zone.”
that should suffice as a primer, but back to the US-Ukraine Security Dialogue 2021 - Day 1…
Here are some mentions of Nordstream in said US-Ukrainian Security Dialogue:
Ben Hodges at 2:50:00 in:
I do believe that Berlin is the only capital that can influence uh kremlin behavior and unfortunately they have been reluctant to do it. I was appalled like many of you when president Steinmeier, the president of the german federal republic, made this comment about Nordstream 2, that like well - you have to understand you know we’re responsible for the death of millions of russians and uh you know there’s a history here - I couldn’t believe he, I can believe it but i was appalled that he said it and of course it actually was millions of ukrainians, not millions of russians uh that that died, uh during the second world war uh and and so the whole narrative that comes from berlin is is uh unsatisfactory and this is where the united states has got to put pressure on berlin, to put pressure on the kremlin, the french - I’m sorry, uh our oldest ally for the united states but they would sell ukraine and georgia in a minute if it meant improved relationship for them uh with the kremlin and so this is where if the Biden administration is serious about ukrainian sovereignty uh as a priority and if by the administration is serious about working with allies and about working with the european union, then uh there should be so much pressure on paris and [thereby - because Paris was named first] berlin to do more to uh otherwise we won’t be able to do this.
Stephen Blank at 03:09:40 in:
The panelists have identified really where we need to go forward we need to have defense industry reform. The ukrainian defense strategy process needs to be further reformed, put on a NATO standard in practice, not just in rhetoric the united states and europe need to continue to support ukraine and we need to put pressure on our european allies to do so. And I think one way we can do this is to hit, is totake out Nordstrem 2. I’m appalled that they seem to be in an effort to uh allow Nordstream 2 to get by, because it’s great it will offend the germans, quite frankly I’m not upset about offending the germans uh - Mr. Steinmeier showed that too many people in germany have no real understanding of where german interest lies and I think that needs to be brought home to them that you can’t lie in bed with the russians then expect that things are going to get better in europe. This is just an end around so the german business can make a lot of profit, but it gives germany also downstream distribution - eh russia, downstream distribution rights in germany and in central europe - and it undermines ukraine in many different ways. So to conclude my remarks we have just heard very distinguished and knowledgeable speakers tell us what the agenda needs to be, a reform in energy, defense industry, defense planning, usaid to uh ukraine, ukrainian political reform, pressure on europe to support ukraine and u.s diplomatic involvement in a big way in current efforts to find peace in ukraine. I don’t think minsk is going to be salvageable, i think we need something beyond minsk, but it’s not going to happen until this administration weighs in and I think that’s what needs to come next. Thank you.
Nuland:
Berliner Zeitung vom 31.01.2023 Bezug nehmend auf:
Sevim Dagdelen, Linke-Abgeordnete und Mitglied der Parlamentarischen Versammlung der Nato, fordert von der Bundesregierung mehr Aktivität bei der Aufklärung der Anschläge auf die Nord-Stream-Pipelines. Dagdelen sagte der Berliner Zeitung: „Die Bundesregierung muss dringend ihren Willen zur Aufklärung über die Urheberschaft für diesen beispiellosen Angriff auf die deutsche Energiesouveränität unter Beweis stellen und vorantreiben sowie gegenüber Parlament und Öffentlichkeit Rechenschaft über den Stand der Ermittlungen ablegen. Das bisherige Zuwarten Berlins kommt einer Vereitelung der Strafverfolgung gleich.“ Hintergrund der Forderung ist eine Aussage von Victoria Nuland, Unterstaatssekretärin der US-Regierung. Nuland hatte vergangene Woche bei einer Anhörung im US-Kongress zum Anschlag gesagt: „Senator Cruz, genau wie Sie bin ich, und ich denke, auch die Regierung, sehr erfreut zu wissen, dass Nord Stream 2 jetzt, wie Sie gerne sagen, ein Stück Metall auf dem Meeresgrund ist.“
Cruz hatte Nuland gefragt, ob die von ihm vor dem russischen Angriff vorgeschlagenen Sanktionen gegen Nord Stream 2 den russischen Angriff auf die Ukraine verhindert hätten. Dies hätten ihm im Januar 2022 sowohl der ukrainische Präsident Wolodymyr Selenskyj als auch die polnische Regierung damals signalisiert. Nuland sagte, sie glaube, dass das frühzeitige Aus für Nord Stream 2 „Putin nicht gestoppt“ hätte: „Ich glaube nicht, dass wir diesen Krieg verhindert hätten, wenn die Europäer schneller bei Nord Stream 2 tätig geworden wären – obwohl auch ich mir das gewünscht hätte.“ Es sei aber wichtig gewesen, dass „mit dem Tag, da der Krieg begann, die Deutschen die Pipeline gestoppt“ hätten. Dagdelen zu der Aussage: „Die offene Freude der US-Unterstaatssekretärin Nuland über die Terrorattacke ist entlarvend.“
Former foreign minister and now EU lawmaker Radosław Sikorski has caused controversy after posting a tweet many perceived accused the US of sabotaging the Nord Stream pipeline.
Sikorski was foreign minister from 2007 to 2014 and, as an MEP, is now part the EPP group in the European Parliament.
The controversial tweet includes a photo of gas coming out of the damaged Nord Stream pipeline, accompanied by the words “Thank You, USA”.
The tweet has attracted party-wide criticism, including from Sikorski’s colleagues from the Civic Platform (PO). The tweet was also criticised by the ruling Law and Justice (PiS).
“You cannot make such hypotheses, especially when you are a serious politician, a person about whom the public has no doubt that he has some knowledge,” PO lawmaker Borys Budka said on broadcaster Radio Plus. Sikorski “should think more about what he writes,” he added.
So nowhere in all of this could one see “the special relationship Biden had with Chancellor Scholz” that “allowed them to achieve this through political means”.
Instead, pretty much every person in this whole affair, asserted, that Germany must be pressured, by also putting pressure on France, and EU institutions to make them move, and the people very much concerned with matters of US-Ukrainian Security relationships openly talked about the destruction of the pipeline, and that this might be needed to make germany move - at all -- one of which openly did so in a 2021 (Biden Administration) panel together with the later Spy Chief of Ukraine.
But the head of the investigative team at german newspaper Die Zeit thinks, the Biden statement was all a play to get nordstream removed via diplomatic means (political pressure) -- even when at that moment Bides eyes lit up like a fucking christmas tree (“We will uh I promise you we’ll be able to do it.”), which you know is your normal bodily response when referring to “diplomatic, political pressure campaigns”, made possible, by the incredibly great relationship Scholz had developed with Biden.
I’m not saying more here, just that Holger Stark, Deputiy Editor-In-Chief of Die Zeit IS A FUCKINGOPUTRAGEOUSLIAR.
Beyond that - nothing is provable, so far. Well except for the “German formality error that Poland stated, caused them to not be able to take action on arresting the main subject this far, when he was still in Poland of course” - which if you put it together with Sweden and Denmark stopping investigations on Nordstream altogether, because of reasons that never became public -- spell oh so much - proactive pandering to a nation who might not want you to look into this… While at the same time risking your relationship with germany - you know, as you do as fellow members of the European Union. But it was that special kind of relationship, that Biden developed to Chancellor Olaf Scholz, that made all of this possible of course.
Just listen to your german investigative units, you know - the ones at “Die Zeit”, that worked together with The Washington Post to bring you the latest developments.
You know, while the next polish leader (this time the prime minister) reacts in an unconventional way…
Polish leader urges Nord Stream patrons to ‘keep quiet’ as pipeline mystery returns to spotlight
Poland’s prime minister has reacted to reports that revived speculation about who blew up the Nord Stream pipelines in 2022
WARSAW, Poland — Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk on Saturday reacted to reports that revived questions about who blew up the Nord Stream pipelines in 2022, saying the initiators of the gas pipeline project should “apologize and keep quiet.” That comment came after one of his deputies denied a claim that Warsaw was partly responsible for its damage.
The Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday that Ukrainian authorities were responsible for blowing up the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines in September 2022, a dramatic act of sabotage that cut Germany off from a key source of energy and worsened an energy crisis in Europe.
Germany was a partner with Russia in the pipeline project. Poland has long said its own security interests have been harmed by Nord Stream.
“To all the initiators and patrons of Nord Stream 1 and 2. The only thing you should do today about it is apologise and keep quiet,” Tusk wrote on the social media portal X Saturday.
Well you know, it was that SPECIAL bound, that SPECIALRELATIONSHIP that Biden had developed with Chancellor Olaf Scholz, that made this all possible that made possible to put this all into place as a political, and not a covert military action.
Vertrauen sie einfach den deutschsprachigen Qualitätsmedien.
Die russische Armee schickt bewusst junge Wehrdienstleistende ins Kampfgebiet bei Kursk. Diese seien „verpflichtet, das Vaterland zu verteidigen“, heißt es im Verteidigungsministerium. Mütter der Rekruten schlagen Alarm.
CNN: Die Ukrainer haben Grundwehrdiener angegriffen:
Putin promised poorly trained conscripts wouldn’t be sent to war. Now the front line has come to them
[…]
Messages shared in Russian Telegram channels and other social media over the past few days have revealed how unprepared Moscow was for this kind of attack, including the fact that its military had left poorly trained conscripts in charge of defending the border with Ukraine – the country Russia has been waging war on for more than 10 years.
“When the border was attacked at 3 a.m. by tanks, there were only conscripts defending themselves,” said one such message shared on Telegram by a woman who said she was a mother of a conscript soldier in Kursk, the border region that Ukrainian troops crossed into last week.
“They didn’t see a single soldier, not a single contract soldier — they didn’t see anyone at all. My son called later and said, ‘Mom, we’re in shock;,” the woman, identified only as Olga, said.
CNN has asked Russia’s defense ministry for comment, but has not received an answer.
The deployment of conscripts is a thorny issue in Russia.
Washington Post: Die Ukraine hat Grundwehrdiener angegriffen.
Most, though, have been stationed along Russia’s expansive Western border to patch up personnel shortages and with the expectation they would never face an attack. Inside Ukraine, Russia has relied on a haphazard force made up of convicts, mercenaries, mobilized and contract soldiers to bear the brunt of the war, with the state continuously increasing their salaries.
But when Ukraine launched a surprise incursion into Kursk last week, these young, untrained conscripts from cities, towns and villages across Russia found themselves on the new front line — and unprepared to defend it. The men in the Ukrainian prison came from as far away as the northwestern port city of St. Petersburg and a rural village in Penza, southeast of Moscow.
“We did not want to fight in any way,” said Nikolai, 22, who is from the city of Chelyabinsk, some 1,200 miles east of Moscow. “We were promised that we would not take part in hostilities at all. But something went wrong.”
[…]
Nikolai and fellow prisoner Sergey, 19, said Ukraine attacked their military headquarters on Aug. 6 and their commanders left without giving instructions on what to do next. Fearing they would be killed if they stayed, the young men walked for three days through forests and swamps and “slept on the cold ground,” Nikolai said. While searching for safety, they came across a group of vehicles decorated with triangles — a symbol Ukraine has painted or taped on all its vehicles crossing into Russia in recent days. “I was trying to remember whether the triangle was our identification sign or not,” Nikolai said. Soon they were surrounded.
Ukrainian soldiers grabbed them by the scruff of the neck, he said, checked them for weapons and then gave them food, water and cigarettes. “They came, chatted, told their stories, listened to ours,” he said. Then they tied their hands and covered their eyes and sent them over the border into Ukraine.
Kirill, 20, who was wearing a Star Wars T-shirt, said his radio was switched off when the Ukrainian incursion began and he missed messages calling for troops to evacuate. He hid at his trench position but was soon surrounded by Ukrainian forces.
“At first, I was scared, I was very much surprised. Then they told me, ‘Surrender and you will live,’” he recalled. He surrendered immediately, and they tied his hands and covered his eyes, then put him in an armored vehicle and drove away. When they stopped driving, a Ukrainian soldier offered to let him call his mom, who works at a grocery store in Russia, he said.
Mediazona: Die Ukraine hat Grundwehrdiener angegriffen:
Russian conscripts are guarding the border in the Kursk region and other lesser-known sectors of the Russian-Ukrainian border. When Ukrainian forces launched an offensive, these young draftees suddenly found themselves in the heat of battle.
Vladimir Putin claims conscripts aren’t fighting in the war, but they go missing in Kursk region in droves. Mediazona interviews their relatives
Putin schickt Rekruten als Nachschub in den Krieg in Kursk! Das Ministerium sagt, das sei ok. Der verheizt die! Ups, ja - und den Teil, dass die Ukrainer die angegriffen haben, als sie glorreich ihre Moral geboostet haben haben wir in den Österreichischen Medien sichherheitshalber gleich weggelassen?
Die russische Armee schickt bewusst junge Wehrdienstleistende ins Kampfgebiet bei Kursk. Diese seien „verpflichtet, das Vaterland zu verteidigen“, heißt es im Verteidigungsministerium. Mütter der Rekruten schlagen Alarm.
Quelle? Deine Mutter? Verlinkt ist keine. Was nicht bedeutet, dass es nicht auch passiert ist -- aber ich finde weder Regimentsbezeichngnungen, noch einen Report, der besagt, dass der Nachschub (der spät eingetroffen ist) ebenfalls aus Grundwehrdienern bestand nur wage assertments, die US Dienste würden das promoten.
Und man weiss ja, wenn DIEUSDIENSTE mal wieder die Ukraine sauber schreiben, dann ist daran alles Sauber.
Also wenn die PR bis jetzt nicht EINEN Rekruten interviewt hat der erst als Nachschub, nach dem ukrainischen Angriff auf Russland in die Region geschickt wurde, dann hakts wohl gewaltig.
edit: Quelle gefunden auf die sich DiePresse.com bezieht:
Parents told about the forthcoming transfer of conscripts to Kursk region immediately after their oath of office
The conscripts of the 80th Motorised Rifle Division, who took the oath on 3 August, are being prepared for transfer from the Murmansk Region to the Kursk Region, where hostilities have been going on since 6 August. Their relatives began to spread appeals in social networks demanding not to send their children to the border. Several mothers of conscripts informed ‘Agency’ about it at once.
Details. Parents publish posts in their accounts demanding not to send their children to Kursk region. They report that conscripts got to the service only on 6-7 July, on 3 August they took the oath - then they were informed about the dispatch. ‘Now in the military unit is preparing conscripts to go on a trip to the Kursk region. Kursk battalions have been created. This information was confirmed to us by the command at the swearing-in on 3 August. There are hostilities in Kursk region and there is a threat to the lives of our sons. The command does not adhere to Vladimir Putin’s statement of 13 June 2023 - not to send conscript soldiers to the combat zone,’ the message reads.
▪️‘Agency’ contacted two mothers of conscripts who confirmed the relevance of this information. One of them told ‘Agency’ that she was at her son’s swearing-in on 3 August, when it became known that they had been sent to Kursk region. Judging by her page in social networks, her son ended up in the army right after school.
▪️Другая mum told ‘Agency’ that relatives of conscripts have already united in one chat room to prevent them from being sent to Kursk region - it has several dozen members and is constantly growing. ‘We are all worried that children are going to be sent to Kursk,’ she said.
▪️Издание ‘Beware the News’ notes that the parents have also created a petition to the president and written a statement to the military prosecutor’s office.
▪️‘The Agency’ was confirmed the fact of parents’ appeal and in one of the organisations dealing with legal assistance to Russian soldiers (for security reasons “The Agency” does not name the interlocutor). According to the organisation’s information, conscripts ‘from different regions’ are being prepared to be sent to the Kursk region.
Context.Conscripts have been at the border in Kursk region since the beginning of the Ukrainian offensive.‘Now in the military unit is preparing conscripts to go on a trip to the Kursk region.
▪️Несмотря the offensive, Russian authorities did not transfer the conscripts remaining in the region to the rear, declaring them a combat unit, several mothers told ‘Agency’.
Russian independent media outlet Agenstvo(re-launched Proekt) reports Russian generals sending conscripts from Murmansk region, who are only 1 month in the army, to the battle in Kursk region, despite Putin’s promises not to send conscripts to the war https://t.co/VcGblKW7jNpic.twitter.com/NjFsD57A0q
Keiner von denen ist bis jetzt noch dort, keiner von denen wurde bis jetzt von den Ukrainern festgenommen, aber über die die seit Beginn dort waren, und die die Ukraine angegriffen hat, über die muss man ja als diepresse.com nicht berichten. Die deutschsprachige Medienlandschaft ist soetwas von das grotesk und abartigst Allerletzte…
edit: Verfickte, verwichste Drecksschweine.
Das Twitter posting verlinkt auf ein Telegrammposting, das bezieht sich auf ein Posting eines Elternteils das nur als Bild verlinkt wird.
Hab den Inhalt mal OCRed und von deepl.com übersetzen lassen:
We are parents and wives of conscripts serving in 80 Motorised Rifle Division (infantry), military unit 34 667.
- н
Our children have been in the unit since 6-7 July 2024.
Now the military unit is preparing conscripts for a trip to the Kursk region Kursk battalions have been created. This information was confirmed to us by the command at the swearing-in on 03 August 2024g To talk to the higher command of the unit was not possible, they refuse to communicate with parents. Phones are hidden and parents are not given.
In order to send servicemen performing military service under conscription (including as part of a military unit) to fulfil tasks in armed conflicts (to participate in combat operations), several conditions must be met, which are specified in Article 2 of the Regulations on the Procedure of Military Service:
- completion of their military service for at least four months
- after training in military specialities.
None of the conditions are fulfilled by the command of military unit 34667-n Conscripts will be sent in August-September 2024t, which is less than four months
And this military unit is not a training unit, so conscripts cannot get a military speciality in it.
In the Kursk region there are hostilities and there is a threat to the lives of our sons The command does not adhere to the statement of V. Putin from 13 06.2023 - not to send conscript soldiers to the combat zone.
We ask not to allow sending our children to the Kursk region These are not border guards, these are infantry They should not be on the border Especially not having served 4 months and not having received a military speciality.
OH, dass die nach Kurk gehen, wurde den Eltern und Russian independent media outlet Agenstvo(re-launched Proekt) bei der Angelobungszeremonie am 03. August mitgeteilt?
ALSODREITAGEVORDEMUKRAINIGSCHENANGRIFF?
On 6 August 2024, during the ongoing Russo-Ukrainian War, the Ukrainian Armed Forces launched an incursion into Russia’s Kursk Oblast and clashed with the Russian Armed Forces and Russian border guard.[34][35][36] [AND A FUCKINGSHITTONOFCONSCRIPTS!]
Klar dreht das DiePresse.com jetzt so hin als ob Russland die jetzt als Verstärkung an die Front schicken würde!
Nein, die wurden in den Regionen stationiert in denen Russland garantiert niemals angegriffen hätte. Aber die Ukrainer hat einfach Grundwehrdiener sehr gerne einkassiert. Und ist deswegen mit Liebe und Freude und zur Stärkung der Ukrainischen Moral in Russland einmarschiert.
Das blenden wir aus, und aus ner Meldung dass die noch am 03. August nach Kursk sollten machen wir “Putin schickt Rekruiten an die Front gegen die Ukraine!”.
Das ist deutschsprachiger Journalismus. HURENWICHSER.
DRECKSMEDIEN.
Ein herzliches FUCKYOU auch an die US Dienste die das jetzt anders hindrehen.
Die Quelle auf die sich diepresse.com bezieht würde von mir über eine Googlesuche nach den Begriffen Mutter von Grundwehrdiener in Murmansk ausfindig gemacht. Ist ja nicht so als ob die verfickte scheiss verhurte DRECKSdiePRESSE.com ihre Quellen verlinken würde.
Das braucht sie ja nicht - auch wenn sie wie heute dadurch lügt, dass wieder NIEMAND, auch nur nen FUCKINGDRECK, nachrecherhiert hätte. Brauchen wir ja nicht. DiePresse.com hat ja in Österreich die Deutungshohheit!
Moderator feeds the expert the ukrainian propaganda line.
King’s College London expert tells him: “Well, there are a couple of military aims, its probably not so much the creation of a buffer zone.”
Dass ich das noch erleben darf! Auf meine alten Tage…
As soon as Nato gives weapons to [other country], weapons become weapons of [other country], so this is sufficient to conform with international law (for Germany)!
So lets use an example here.
Say, the US is providing all the mass bombing infrastructure, ammunition and launch capability for Israel to destroy 80% for the gaza strip, this through the act of “gifting those weapons to israel” becomes “entirely sufficient to have those weapon shipments conform with international law”.
Ah finally someone that can explain to the german people reality in an easy an clear manner (again).
Of course this was the second person that german media in its entirety chose to interview on the question, if the ukrainian attack on russia should be considered conforming with international law.
Hey - you cant see anything wrong with that, because if you do you will lose your job as a journalist and be ostracized by german speaking society.
Deplatforming dissenting voices is such a great cultural tool of the Wertewesten…
Because people manipulate epistemes like the gospel in church, and then simply through repeating them over and over again in your media outlets at primetime, they become the de facto truth to the majority of people.
You just need a Kiesewetter, and then shout down every human being more intelligent than he is, wherever you see them.
Diese Gesellschaft ist das absolut abgrundtief und abartigst Allerletzte.
Welche Werte?
Humpta, Humpta tröt, Bier und Blasmusik? Mia san mir, und de ondan mög ma net?
Kiesewetter meine Damen und Herrn. Komplexer als das darf es wirklich nicht mehr werden.
Putin counter on this interview (because of what Putin, will think, thinks, will do, feels, will think we think, and didnt expect) hit right about 15 on this interview I think -- I’m not brave enough to watch it again to count.
DW trying to push the propaganda line into the public with the grace and pertness of a pressure washer.
Second Part:
Security Analyst with his own firm trying to stay polite, while not agreeing with any point the DW propagandists have made, so others might still use his consultancy.
Defilee: Moderator not catching in the least whats going on here.
Gut, dass DW ja nie die Propaganda entdeckt dies selbst mit aller Kraft in die Öffentlichkeit presst.
edit:
Same issue complex -
CNN Reporter for once in her life gets the wording right.
Head Moderator: “Volodymyr Zelensky, meanwhile, confirms that the goal of Kiev’s military incursion into Kursk, now nearly two weeks old, is to prevent Russian cross-border attacks by creating a buffer zone. It comes as Ukraine attacked strategic bridges in the Russian border region. [Horray ground vehicles now have issues closing in! Finally! No russian ground invasion into Sumy!]
CNN’s Claire Sebastian, joining me now live in London with more.
Claire, I mean, the attack on the bridges is clearly meant to disrupt, you know, the russian supply lines. How big of an impact could this have on the eastern front lines, where Russia is advancing?”
Emma Claire: “That’s really not clear yet. [Thats value western journalism speek for “currently, none at all”. The the one partial rail line leading to Charkiev is nothing that Russia especially needs. And there is no other strategic impact whatsoever.]
Amara, I think more immediately, the attack on those bridges could help reinforce this whole idea of a buffer zone. Right? Stop Russia from bringing in more reinforcements and more equipment into the part of the Kursk region that Ukraine now has established a foothold [in]. There, I think in terms of the Eastern Front is clear that Moscow continues to devote a lot of energy to this.
It has redeployed some forces, we know, based on various reports from, places like Crimea, perhaps even Kaliningrad, up to Charkiev. But it is not it is much less willing to redeploy forces away from Donezk to, to defend Kursk.
And that is because they continue, as you say, to inch forward. We know that there’s fierce fighting in several villages, to the east of Charietsk, which is a small town, but still strategic.
And in the bigger military stronghold of Bokrovsk, which is still was held by Ukraine, they are now evacuating civilians with some degree of urgency, forcibly evacuating families with children, essentially saying that the Russians are far too close for comfort.
So a very important not only military hub but sort of transport intersection leading to other, military strongholds.
So that would be a major loss for Ukraine.
So I think the message Russia is sending that is that even though this has happened, their territory has been invaded in Kursk. They are not giving up on their goals in Ukraine.”
CNN Head Moderator: “And it’s remarkable. Yes. Two weeks in that. We’re talking still talking about Ukrainian held territory inside Russia! Do we have any indication from Ukraine? How much farther, how much longer it will go into Russia?”
Emma Claire: So I think what is clear at this point, some almost two weeks in, is that the pace of the first week where the element of surprise was still there, Russia was still at sort of shocked by the whole thing. That has definitely slowed. We’re not seeing the kind of lightning advance that we saw at the beginning. They are still, according to the Ukrainians, edging forward in some areas, one about 30km to the north of the town of Sudscha, which was where the initial assault was focused, a town that they now claim to fully hold.
And what we’re also seeing, of course, is this consolidation.
They’ve opened a military office in such, the bridges speak to that as well. The, the explosions on on those two bridges that we’ve now, confirmed it’s all about sort of building up their forces and their control in their, in the territories they currently hold, because, of course, they continue to maintain that this is defensive. And they need to stop Russia from using the region to fire back into Ukraine.”
Head moderator: “Emma Claire Sebastian reporting for us there from London. Thank you very much.”
So Emma Claire will probably lose her job for that kind of impertinence. Doubting the official ukrainian propaganda line and hinting at this being not the actual reason - will lose you your job in this business.
As we all know the job of a reporter is to say yes to the questions put to her by the head moderator in all aspects of Ukrainian official rectifications for actions in this war.
War doch nur eine der ersten Erfolgsmeldungen der Ukraine, dass man sich jetzt durch den Angriff auf Russland die “Austauschkasse” an Soldaten wieder aufbessere. Hurra.
Also welch ein Glück, der “Raid” der Ukrainer rein in das am wenigsten verteidigte Gebiet an der ukrainischen Grenze, traf in Kursk auf *trommelwirbel bitte* RUSSISCHEGRUNDWEHRDIENER, die garnicht an der Grenze stehen hätten dürfen!
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MEINEGÜTE, SOEINZUFALL!
Und vor denen musste die Ukraine Sumy schützen und brauchte dazu trotz null Drohnen Toten in den letzten 3 Monaten in der Region, und den gesamt vier Kriegstoten die auf liveuamap.com in den letzen drei Monaten vermerkt sind -- unbedingt noch eine 40km lange Bufferzone, bei ner Grenzlänge in Sumy von 185km… Denn auf der anderen Seite standen ja - russische Grundwehrdiener.
(Ohne zuvor eine Evakuierung der eigenen Bevölkerung im Grenzbereich eingeleitet zu haben, die begann ja erst am Tag 4 und beinhaltete dann nur die ersten 10km Tiefe, denn hätte man 20km gewählt hätte man ja das SICHERESUMYSTADT evakuieren müssen, in das gestern noch die ganzen Omis aus der Grenznähe gebracht worden sind. Und der ARD Korrespondent auf Erlebnisreise.)
Und in dieser Pufferzone passiert auch im Moment gerade überhaupt nichts -- die Grenzregion zu Kursk wird aktuell nicht einmal bewacht. Denn - *Trommelwirbel bitte* die Ukraine hat mal kurz eine Nachrichtensperre ausgerufen, die der CNN Korrespondent hier (sowie die Reporter der NZZ) übergangen hat um (unter ukrainischer Führung) komplette Städte zu zeigen in denen es keine militärische Präsenz abseits von Soldaten in Zivil, und ukrainischen Soldaten in Kleinwarengeschäften beim Einkaufen gab:
Gut, sind jetzt nicht unbedingt die besten Bilder, wenn sie da Grundwehrdiener rausfahren. Lieber nur von hinten zeigen, sie wissen schon, auf einem Toyota Pickup während der Fahrt, oder mit Papier vorm Gesicht, mit Klebeband rund um den Kopf festgeklebt…
Also - Während die Ukraine ihr komplett ruhiges Sumy von fucking Grundwehrdienern durch nen immer noch völkerrechtswidrigen Angriff (sorry, ich kann das das humanitäre Völkerrecht lesen, ich kann nachrecherchieren, wie viele Leute im letzten Halbjahr in Sumy ungekommen sind ich brauch die Propaganda Line nicht, die jetzt bereits Lars Klingbeil wiederholen muss…) und eine größere Bufferzone durch einen Angriff schützen wollte, während es die eigene Bevölkerung am Tag vier des Einmarschs aus einer 10km Grenzzohne nach Sumy Stadt evakuiert (20km vor der Grenze) von wo aus die Ukraine den Angriff auf Russland GESTARTETHAT, und die einzige Stadt im Grenzgebiet mit mehr als 2000 Einwohnern pro km2 -- klar, bringen sie da die Evakuierten hin und dazu noch kurz davor ne Nachrichtensperre ausrufen musste, um dann in Grenznähe in den Tagen darauf genau garnichts zu tun - und immer noch alles daran zu setzen den Angriff auszuweiten, also währenddessen, schafft es die NZZ zu berichten, dass --
DIEKÄMPFEBRUTALHARTWÄREN!
Überschrift NZZ.
Brutal hart.
Moment was war nochmal deren Quelle?
Oh - Das Boasting eines fucking ukrainischen Soldaten (Ich drück mir ja die Daumen, dass der in Deutschland ausgebildet worden ist!), der gegen Grundwehrdiener kämpft…
Dmitro hat seinem Kameraden einen Energydrink mitgebracht. Sie gehören zu einer Einheit von Funkaufklärern. «Brutal schwierig» seien die Kämpfe. «Die Russen schiessen mit Raketen und Drohnen auf uns.» Kürzlich zerstörten sie den Lastwagen, der ihnen das Essen bringen sollte. «Zwei Tage lang sassen wir hungrig in unserer Stellung. Aber wir haben es ihnen hart gegeben.»
Ja -- warum hat die Ukraine Sumy bloß angegriffen??!?!? Die werden ja sicher nur gewusst haben, dass Kursk schwach verteidigt wird, aber nicht WERDORTRUSSLANDVERTEIDIGT!
Sicher. Das wird ihnen die US sicher nicht gesagt haben, als sie ihnen das Sattelitenüberwachungsmatterial in Echtzeit übermittelt haben…
Aber so ein guter Zufall auch, dass das jetzt für die Russische Militärführung wirklich ein echtes PR Problem ist, da Grundwehrdiener an der Grenze nicht stationiert sein hätten dürfen…
Oh, WARDASDIEZWEITEPRLINE, WESSHALBSSOGUTGEKLAPPTHAT, ALSOKURSK, dass Putin dadurch öffentlich unter Druck käme?!
Hmm, woher wusste die Ukraine denn so genau, dass das für Russland ein Propaganda Desaster werden würde? Wussten die etwa, aus welcher Region diese Grundwehrdiener waren? Nämlich nicht aus den entlegenen Teilen Inguschetiens und Kaukasiens?
Nein, also so tief würde die Ukraine sicher nie sinken. Dass sie deshalb Russland angreift!
Dass das Grundwehrdiener sind, das haben ihnen die US sicherlich nicht gesagt, als sie ihnen die Live Sattelitenbilder intravenös ins Nasenloch appliziert haben…
Das war einfach eine komplett freudige Überraschung!
Gut - jetzt erst mal Nachrichtensperre verhängen und alle Rätseln lassen, was wohl der Sinn dieser unglaublich multifacettenreichen Offensive war!
Land besetzen. Eingraben. Halten. Grundwehrdiener einsacken. Erlebnissreise für die in Deutschland auf deutschem Gerät ausgebildeten neuen Soldaten, Moral stärken … Sumy, sichern - achso ja … nein, das noch nicht so … ne Pufferzone solls ja nur werden, damits auch völkerrechtskonform war. Und dabei regierungsintern noch schön viel darüber Schwafeln, dass das jetzt ein Raid sei:
Sie wissen schon - eine - as good friends in Ukraine would put it:
Ukraine is staging “Offensive Defensive Operation!”
Aber unsere Deutschsprachigen Medien sind ja wiedermal unfähig daraus ein kongruentes Bild zu malen.
Fahr in die Au mit mir Marie, lass uns dort ein paar Grundwehrdiener holen! Die tausch ma dann gegen eigene Soldaten aus -- ja ist Mitte September denn schon Weihnachten, sorry Rasputiza, während der Russland das Land nicht zurückerobern kann?!
Und wie sehr das Putin blamieren wird!!
Wirklich?
So - jetzt mal so als jemand der Krisen-PR im Studium hatte, Putin hat alles richtig gemacht -- das größte Problem aber noch vor sich.
Kleines Geldgeschenk an die vertriebenen (100 Euro) als Geste, den Vorfall runtergespielt. Prioritär und hart aus der Entfernung reagiert, aber nichts wesentliches dort hinverlagert (die Ukraine ist mittlerweile mit 15.000 Mann drin). Zugesichert, dass man es weiter prioritär behandeln würde. Weiträumig evakuiert, und es dann auf “darum kümmern wir uns, wenn wir sonst nichts zu tun haben” Priorisierung gesetzt, während er trotzdem genügend Gerät hinversetzt um die schnellen Expeditionsvorstöße der Ukraine sehr verlustreich zu gestalten. Denn alles andere wäre falsch und würde in Russland das Augenmerk darauf richten, warum hier Grundwehrdiener an der Front gestanden haben.
Diese gesellschaftliche Diskussion wäre in Russland der GAU. Und sie wird noch nicht geführt, dh - die kommt noch auf Putin zu… Und mit rausreden oder Schuld delegieren ist da nichts -- denn dass da nur versehentlich Grundwehrdiener an der Front gestanden haben, glaubt nicht mal das russische Volk seiner Führung.
edit: Korrektur:
“The initial force in the Kursk area was FSB Border Troops, Akhmat fighters from Chechnya, and local ground forces units taken from the Moscow or Leningrad military districts. Now, they have brought in additional forces subordinate from the Leningrad and Moscow military districts — some of them are conscripts,” said Dara Massicot, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
Laut FT kamen die Grundwehrdiener erst als Verstärkung.
edit2: GEIL, DIEFTLÜGT!
Moscow Times (headquartered in Amsterdam, seit dem russischen media Crackdown (wiki)), verweist diesbezüglich auf ein weiteres “unabhängiges russischsprachiges online Portal [gegründet in Europa]” -- das folgendes berichtet:
On August 6, during the breakthrough of the Ukrainian military into the territory of the Kursk region, more than 100 conscripts ended up on the border, according to Vorstka’s interlocutors. “Verstka” managed to talk with soldiers who came under fire and spent several days in the forests. According to them, “everyone knew” that the Ukrainian Armed Forces were preparing to attack, but there were no instructions from the command in this regard.
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How conscripts ended up at the border
Dozens of conscripts who ended up in the Kursk region served in Klintsy, Bryansk region - in military units 12721 and 91704. From there, at least since May, they began to be sent to the border with Ukraine.
[…]
Alexander, a conscript from St. Petersburg, with whom Vorstka managed to talk, says the same thing. “Yes, everything was fine, we went to the outfits, several support workers, where we took turns for 2–3 days,” he says. — This is Rubanshchina, Goncharovka, towards the border. At that time there were more than 150 conscripts in the area. But there were both contract soldiers and border guards from the FSB. We all rotated constantly. [ ] It’s easier there, there’s no stupid army jerking off.”
[…]
Two of Vorstka’s interlocutors claim that there could have been more than 100 conscripts on the border by the time the fighting began. The volunteer who prepared lunches for the soldiers said that in areas near Sudzha there were 15 positions, and each of them included conscripts.
Slava and fucking Slava your Slava you fucking assholes.
Von denen Russland dann noch mehr an die Front schickt? Wobei - laut FT, die hat schon mal die die schon dort waren weggeschrieben. Braucht ja niemand zu wissen…
Kolta continues the project “Journalism: Revision” with a conversation that Ksenia Luchenko has with the editor-in-chief of “Verstka” Lola Tagaeva. “Verstka” appeared only a year ago and became the flagship of new media working abroad. How did this happen?
— You decided to launch a new media outlet when the war started. That is, you were still in shock, nothing was clear, the world was collapsing, editorial offices were evacuated to Istanbul, Bishkek and wherever — and then Lola came along and launched a new Russian-language media outlet in Europe. How did that even happen? And why did you need it at that moment?
— A year later I’m already thinking: God, why did I sign up for all this? Not a day goes by that I don’t think: I could have lived peacefully.
In fact, the story was like this. I had already had a break from journalism for several years, I moved to Prague and worked on gender projects. I promoted the Moscow FemFest festival , around which we came up with various programs, trainings, educational stories. And then we launched Moscow MaleFest about men in the modern world, about modern masculinity, about Russian men. If we translate from academic language into ordinary language, we figured out how attitudes and gender socialization affect the quality of life.
I worked in political journalism for many years, as an editor, editor-in-chief in Russian independent media, and I burned out, I felt hopeless. When we started doing gender education, I clearly understood what my effect was. The topic of domestic violence became mainstream, I felt my small, but belonging to the fact that it was no longer taboo. It was important for me to feel that what I was doing was useful. By the beginning of 2022, we had many commercial projects, we conducted trainings for large companies for a thousand people. And what I was doing in political journalism, as it seemed to me, was no longer useful, it was just endless chronicles of the apocalypse.
But after February 24, I didn’t understand how all this could continue, how I would continue to earn money and work only on gender projects. I saw how some media outlets, where I once worked, were closing, relocating, and reassembling — Novaya Gazeta, Dozhd (recognized as a foreign agent in the Russian Federation. — Ed. ). And others were increasingly self-censoring, like RBC. I saw the destruction of the media before my eyes.
At the same time, as a reader, I had a lot of questions, and I didn’t understand where I could get answers. This is not a complaint about journalism. It was destroyed, controlled, persecuted, imprisoned, they did everything, journalists emigrated en masse.
[l]Lacher des Tages: Hey, wenn du schnell, dringend einen Experten für Cybersicherheit, Datenschutz und Geopolitik bräuchtest… an wen hättest du da zuerst gedacht?
Doch künftig arbeitet Oettinger für den chinesischen Mode-Versender Shein. „Ich habe ein Mandat als freier Berater – eng begrenzt auf Cybersicherheit, Datenschutz und Geopolitik“, sagte Oettinger WELT.
Na das passt ja mal wieder wie Arsch auf Eimer! (Danke, Philipp)
wurde jetzt von Dörfern in der Grenzregion um Sumy nach Sumy Stadt evakuiert.
Der ARD Korrespondent findets auch super toll, dass die jetzt alle in Sumy sind!
…
WHAT?!
Gut institutionelle Unfähigkeit von Behörden kennt man nicht nur aus der Ukraine - aber wie zur FUCKINGINGHÖLLE, bekommst du den ARD Korrespondenten dazu sich darüber zu freuen?!
Also den ARD Korrespondenten der in der SELBENVERFICKTEN Schalte anmerkt -- ja, also vom Krieg bekommt man hier schon viel mit, man hört dauernd Einschläge von Bomben und so..!
Aber die ukrainische Verwaltung weiß: DIETECHNIKSCHÜTZTUNS… Und Demographie und Statistik sind uns wirklich komplett egal!
Also.
Grenzregion Sumy. (185km Grenze und dann ein 40 km Streifen)
Sind folgende größere Städte und Dörfer:
Swessa: 6800 Einwohner (in guten Zeiten)
Hluchiw: 33000 Einwohner (in guten Zeiten)
Putywl: 15000 Einwohner (in guten Zeiten)
Buryn: 8800 Einwohner (in guten Zeiten)
Boroschba: 7000 Einwohner (in guten Zeiten)
Bilopillja: 18000 Einwohner (in guten Zeiten)
Krasnopillja: 8000 Einwohner (in guten Zeiten)
Sumy: 264000 Einwohner (in guten Zeiten)
Bedeutet 96.600 Einwohner im Umland, und 264.000 Einwohner in Sumy.
Sumy Stadt Fläche: 95 km²
Sumy Umland Fläche: 185km (Grenze) * 40 km (Grenzstreifen): 7400 km² Fläche.
Sumy Stadt Einwohner pro Fläche alt: 2780 Ew pro km2
Sumy Umland Einwohner pro Fläche alt: 13 Ew pro km2
Jetzt evakuiert die Ukraine ein Drittel der Einwohner des Umlands nach Sumy rein:
Sumy Stadt Einwohner pro Fläche neu: 3120 Ew pro km2
Sumy Umland Einwohner pro Fläche neu: 9 Ew pro km2
Hey GEIL! Moment, was versucht Russland gerade wieder zu nehmen? Oh so nen Blob vor Sumy Stadt…
Und hey was hat die Ukraine gerade gemacht? Mehr menschliche Schutzschilde genommen?
Aber keine Angst, DIETECHNIKWIRDSIESCHÜTZEN!
DERARD Korrespondet FREUTSICHSCHONSO!
Auch wenn er täglich mehrere Einschläge und Bomben hört, weil die sind hier ja irgendwie ganz in der Nähe, und irgendwie ist das auch wirklich Terror für die Zivilbevölkerung…
So - und dann noch etwas Grinsen, und noch etwas davon schwafeln, dass die ARD doch eh immer alles sauber berichtet hätte (selber Beitrag!).
Gottseidank ist Omi jetzt in Sumy!
Oder wie ich gelernt hab mir keine Sorgen zu machen, und einfach den Qualitätsmedien zu vertrauen.
Gut die Omi war auf dem einsamen Bauernhof aus dem sie die ukrainischen Soldaten rausgezerrt haben aber auch wirklich nicht mehr sicher…
Oder die Ukraine hatte keine Soldaten mehr um die Grundversorgung in den ländlichen Regionen sicherzustellen, und die Soldaten wollten eigentlich auch nicht mehr soweit fahren, da haben sie einfach alle nach Sumy gebracht!
Glänzende Idee! Der ARD Korrespondent freut sich auch wirklich sehr!
Einmal im Leben so dumm sein, wie der durchschnittliche Deutsche, ach könnt ichs nur noch erleben…
Super - der Qualitätsjournalismus hier wieder, wirklich:
Hier noch ne zweite Omi die nicht gehen wollte:
edit: Mich beschleicht so eine Ahnung, dass Omi gerade wegen ein paar Minen gehen musste, also Minen die Ukraine in den nächsten 6 Monaten noch streuen wird müssen…
Die Ukraine hat aktuell nämlich nur einen Streifen von 10km Breite evakuiert (nicht 40km um Leute von Artilleriefeuer zu schützen), und - ehm.… 10 km brauchst du für dreifach gestaffelte Verteidigungsanlagen… Die sie ja eher nicht in Russland bauen wollen werden. Über 185km Länge…
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