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04. Dezember 2023

Nach den fünf Lügen neu­lich - die deutsch­spra­chi­ge Medi­en im Ukrai­ne Krieg der Bevöl­ke­rung auf­ge­tischt haben, und die durch ein ein­zi­ges Inter­view mit dem Ver­hand­lungs­lei­ter der Ukrai­ne in Bela­rus und Anka­ra auf ein­mal als Lügen trans­pa­rent wur­den, heu­te die sechste.

Leis­tung!

Auch Diplo­ma­ten aus ande­ren euro­päi­schen Län­dern, Aus­tra­li­en, Süd­ko­rea und Sin­ga­pur warf Putin eine feind­se­li­ge Poli­tik ihrer Regie­run­gen gegen­über Russ­land vor.

Der Prä­si­dent stand bei der Zere­mo­nie im Kreml in gro­ßer Ent­fer­nung von den Bot­schaf­tern und begrün­de­te das mit wei­ter gel­ten­den Hygie­ne­be­stim­mun­gen im Zuge der Corona-Pandemie. Dabei hat­te er die inter­na­tio­na­len Diplo­ma­ten wegen sei­nes Besuchs einer Aus­stel­lung war­ten las­sen, wo er viel näher mit den Gäs­ten zusam­men­ge­kom­men war.

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Komisch das, oder? Fio­na Hill hat dar­aus, zu Kriegs­be­ginn, und in der Unkennt­nis des Umstands, dass Putin nach Nafta­li Ben­nett in der Zeit vor dem Ukrai­ne Angriff nicht iso­liert war, die wun­der­schö­ne Geschich­te zusam­men­ge­lo­gen, das Putin einen Covid Kol­ler und Angst vor Covid hat.

Und ich muss­te im Stu­di­um noch ler­nen, dass die lan­gen Tische von Russ­land in der Außen­kom­mu­ni­ka­ti­on ein­ge­setzt wer­den um inhalt­li­che Distanz zu demons­trie­ren. War sei­ner­zeit bei mir noch Prüfungsstoff.

Daher eini­gen wir uns jetzt auf Angst vor einem Anschlag durch ein gene­tisch enge­nier­tes Virus, oder…? (Bond Plot ich hör dir trapsen.)

Auf Putin hat eine Immunschwäche?

Denn dass Putin drei Jah­re nach Aus­bruch noch immer nicht mit einem MRNA basier­ten Impf­stoff geimpft ist, und ganz Russ­land kei­nes der Medi­ka­men­te auf Lager hat, die einen sym­to­mär­me­ren Ver­lauf garan­tie­ren UND dass die rus­si­sche Regie­rung die Infek­ti­ons­wahr­schein­lich­keit bei Imp­fung auf bei­den Sei­ten nicht kennt (sie­he click), und dann noch Covid Pro­to­koll auf der einen Sei­te als Begrün­dung vor­ge­scho­ben und auf der ande­ren Sei­te gebro­chen wird -

arbei­tet die sechs­te Lüge der deut­schen Brei­ten­me­di­en sehr schön heraus.

Wer auch immer in Russ­land für die­sen diplo­ma­ti­schen Wink mit dem Zaun­pfahl zustän­dig war, Kudos. Kann was.

Fast schon Hochachtung.

Tja, die nächs­te iden­ti­fi­zier­ba­re Lüge kommt bestimmt.

Korrektur

04. Dezember 2023

The­re is signi­fi­cant evi­dence of sys­te­ma­tic sexu­al abu­se, but mor­gue offi­cials have not desi­gna­ted indi­vi­du­al cases as rape becau­se of a lack of court-compliant phy­si­cal pro­of. In addi­ti­on to sur­vi­vors’ tes­ti­mo­ny, a slew of Israe­li offi­cials, first respon­ders, and mor­gue workers have sta­ted that Hamas raped women as part of its ass­ault. The Shin Bet has released clips from video­ta­ped inter­ro­ga­ti­ons of cap­tu­red Hamas per­pe­tra­tors attes­ting to their orders to rape Jewish women.

The decisi­on — made under war foo­ting and a pres­sing need to iden­ti­fy the dead — to not use time-consuming crime sce­ne inves­ti­ga­ti­on pro­to­cols to docu­ment rape cases has fue­led inter­na­tio­nal skep­ti­cism over Hamas’s sexu­al abu­se of vic­tims on Octo­ber 7.

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Der letz­te Absatz trifft auf mich zu. Ich war nach­dem ich die Äuße­run­gen der israe­li­schen Geist­li­chen die in den Lei­chen­hal­len zuge­las­sen waren und dann mit den Medi­en gespro­chen haben (= Pri­mär­quel­len) gehört habe, eben­falls sehr skep­tisch. Und hab das mit dem “signi­fi­cant evi­dence of sys­te­ma­tic rape we can’t tell you about” nicht gekauft.

Ges­tern hat UN-Women die Taten offi­zi­ell ver­ur­teilt.

edit: Kon­text (Unvet­ted. Be careful.):

Niemand hätte es ahnen, oder berichten können!

03. Dezember 2023

US-Verteidigungsminister Lloyd Aus­tin ruft Isra­el zum Schutz von Zivi­lis­ten auf. Puf­fer­zo­ne um Gaza soll Isra­el nach Kriegs­en­de schützen

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War ja nicht ersicht­lich, dass Isra­el eine Puf­fer­zo­ne will, auch wenn sich in deren Kriegs­plan kein Wort dazu findet!

Hat man ja nicht berich­ten können!

Wo doch nur jedes ein­zel­ne stra­te­gi­sche Manö­ver seit Kon­flikt­be­ginn dar­auf aus­ge­legt war eine Puf­fer­zo­ne zu bil­den! Unter Schein­vor­be­hal­ten von “man gehr jetzt Ter­ro­ris­ten jagen”, die dann lei­der schon alle weg waren als man ankam.

Gut, jetzt muss­ten im Nor­den Gazas noch schnell 15 Kran­ken­häu­ser gesäu­bert wer­den, dass sich die dor­ti­gen loka­len Com­mu­nities nicht an einem letz­ten Rest sozia­ler Orga­ni­sa­ti­on fest­klam­mern konn­ten, aber da haben die die scheiß, ver­hur­ten deut­schen Medi­en ja immer davon gespro­chen wie vie­le Häupt­quar­tie­re da nicht täg­lich gefun­den und aus­ge­ho­ben wer­den, nicht?!

Also ers­tens nein - tat­säch­lich - nicht -

und zwei­tens, hat uns doch nie­mand sagen kön­nen, dass es hier eigent­lich um die Eta­blie­rung eine Puf­fer­zo­ne geht! (WO DOCH DIE USA SO TOLL IN DER REGION VERMITTELT HATTEN!)

Acha, nein - doch ich am 30.10.

Du weißt, dass du bei Jour­na­lis­mus gelan­det bist

Pro­blem?

Aus­spre­chen durf­te mans in den deutsch­spra­chi­gen Medi­en nicht, weil man ja so toll mit der israe­li­schen Staats­rä­son ver­bun­den war…

Hübsch.

Die­se Gesell­schaft ist das abso­lut gro­tesk und abar­tigst Allerletzte.

Die Jour­na­lis­ten die das zu ver­ant­wor­ten haben.…

Zusatz: Komisch, wie­so wer­den jetzt bloß die israe­li­schen und US Kriegs­schif­fe im roten Meer angegriffen?!

edit: Es gibt aber natür­lich auch wie­der gute Nachrichten:

Isra­el kün­digt Kampf bis zum «tota­len Sieg» an

[…]

Eva­ku­ie­rungs­auf­ruf sorgt für Panik und Verwirrung
Nun rief Isra­el auch die Bewoh­ner meh­re­rer Vier­tel öst­lich von Khan Yunis auf, die­se zu räu­men. Wohin sie flie­hen soll­ten, wur­de ihnen nicht gesagt. Der Auf­ruf sorg­te für Panik und Verwirrung.

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Ich weiss nicht ob sies wussten…

01. Dezember 2023

Isra­el soll schon seit einem Jahr von Hamas-Angriffsplänen gewusst haben

Laut einem Bericht der “New York Times” sol­len seit einem Jahr recht genaue Details der geplan­ten Hamas-Attacke vor­ge­le­gen sein. In Isra­el habe man die­se für unrea­lis­tisch gehalten

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Isra­el wur­de nicht von den US oder Ägyp­ten über den Anschlag infor­miert, Isra­el wur­de nur von unbe­kannt über den Anschlag infor­miert. Wobeis noch unsi­cher ist, obs die US waren. Nähe­re Infor­ma­tio­nen bei der New York Times.

edit: Ah, hier das follow-up via fefe:

Poli­ti­co: EXCLUSIVE
‘No indi­ca­tors’ Isra­el shared Hamas war plans with U.S.
“Jeri­cho Wall” report indi­ca­tes Isra­el igno­red warning signs of Oct. 7 attacks. 

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edit: Es gibt aber natür­lich auch wie­der gute Nach­rich­ten. Jemand hat­te die exzell­ten­te Idee meh­re­re 60 Jah­re alte, wei­ße, jüdi­sche Män­ner mit AI zusammenbringen.

What cau­sa­ti­on?!

Die neue Phase des Krieges

01. Dezember 2023

Selen­skyj: Neue Pha­se des Krie­ges hat begonnen
LIVEBERICHT Chris­ti­na Rebhahn-Roither, Anna Wie­lan­der 1. Dezem­ber 2023, 13:18

Der ukrai­ni­sche Prä­si­dent Wolo­dym­yr Selen­skyj rech­net damit, dass der Win­ter die Kämp­fe sei­ner Armee gegen die rus­si­schen Angrei­fer erschwe­ren wer­de. Trotz Rück­schlä­gen wer­de die Ukrai­ne aber nicht aufgeben.

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NEIN! Das hat­te den deutsch­spra­chi­gen Medi­en aber auch nie­mand plau­si­bel erklä­ren kön­nen, dass die ukrai­ni­sche Ras­pu­tiza die ukrai­ni­sche Offen­si­ve beendet!

Die haben doch glatt das Gegen­teil berichtet.

Gut aber, dass jetzt ein Monat nach Beginn der Ras­pu­tiza der Win­ter die ukrai­ni­sche Gegen­of­fen­si­ve in eine neue Pha­se über­führt hat! In der es schwie­ri­ger wer­den wird.

Pro­pa­gan­da hat immer noch nie­mand entdeckt.

Die­se Gesell­schaft ist und bleibt das abso­lut abgrund­tief, gro­tesk Allerletzte.

A polite understatement

29. November 2023

Heu­te in der NZZ.

Die Ein­schät­zung des ukrai­ni­schen Gene­ral­stabs von Anfang Juli, wonach Russ­land die meis­ten sei­ner Lanzet-Drohnen bereits ver­braucht habe und nur noch 50 Stück besit­ze, hat sich als falsch erwiesen.

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Hat denen doch kei­ner sagen kön­nen, dass die Wege fin­den wei­ter Chips zu importieren.

Gut, aber wie under­sta­tet kann das schon sein… Ich mei­ne… Ballpark?

Rus­si­ans use 40-50 dro­nes in Ukraine’s east per day

src: click (Ukrain­s­ka Pravda)

In der Fach­spra­che nennt man das glaub ich einen Fak­tor 365.

Gut, da sind auch FPV Droh­nen dabei, also wie siehts bei den Lan­zet aus?

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Und wie immer gilt, der Feind pfeift aus dem letz­ten Loch, und wir sind kurz davor zu gewinnen.

Pro­pa­gan­da hat aber immer noch nie­mand entdeckt.

edit: Jetzt gibt es aber natür­lich auch wie­der gute Nachrichten:

Gott, was ich mich auf den nächs­ten Alp­bach News­let­ter freue, in dem Johan­nes Stangl uns davon berich­ten wird!

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Kon­text: click

Oh nein, die Sklaven sind weg!

28. November 2023

Arbeits­skla­ven natürlich.

Israe­li­sche Bau­ern in Not: Die Arbei­ter sind alle geflohen

Yuval Shragi­an ist einer von vie­len israe­li­schen Land­wir­ten, die ihren Betrieb nur mit­hil­fe von Frei­wil­li­gen auf­recht­erhal­ten kön­nen. Im gan­zen Land feh­len die thai­län­di­schen und paläs­ti­nen­si­schen Arbeiter.

src: click (NZ)

Was tun?

Wie bewäl­ti­gen Sie jetzt Ihre Arbeit?

Mit­hil­fe von Frei­wil­li­gen. Wir haben Auf­ru­fe in den sozia­len Netz­wer­ken gemacht und wur­den vom Andrang über­wäl­tigt. Momen­tan sind rund 60 Leu­te dabei, auf mei­nen Fel­dern Broc­co­li oder Kohl zu pflan­zen, Stu­den­ten, Pro­gram­mie­rer, alles Mög­li­che. Sie kom­men, um zu schwit­zen und zu ver­ges­sen. Das ist das Bes­te, was man momen­tan tun kann. Ohne sie müss­te ich bald zumachen.

Wie kommt es eigent­lich, dass Sie so auf Hilfs­kräf­te aus dem Aus­land ange­wie­sen sind? Vor dem Krieg waren rund 30000 Thais und 9000 Paläs­ti­nen­ser in der israe­li­schen Land­wirt­schaft tätig, jetzt sol­len min­des­tens 15000 von ihnen fehlen.

Ja, Arbei­ter feh­len über­all, und das stürzt unser Land auch in eine land­wirt­schaft­li­che Kri­se. Aber die Israe­li arbei­ten halt lie­ber in der Tech-Industrie. Und das Bau­ern­le­ben ist ja auch hart, und es wird immer härter.

Erklä­ren sie das mal mit einer typi­schen Handbewegung.

Wie hat die Zusam­men­ar­beit zwi­schen paläs­ti­nen­si­schen und israe­li­schen Ange­stell­ten denn frü­her funktioniert?

Auf mei­nem Betrieb gibt es eine Regel: Ob Ara­ber, Juden oder Thais, nie­mand spricht über Poli­tik, die bleibt zu Hau­se. Jeder darf sei­ne Mei­nun­gen haben, aber ich will nichts davon hören. So hat das eigent­lich immer gut funk­tio­niert. Ich respek­tie­re mei­ne paläs­ti­nen­si­schen Arbei­ter gleich wie alle ande­ren. Sie arbei­ten sehr hart und sind loyal.

Stran­ge fruit.

Leistung!

26. November 2023

Deutsch­spra­chi­ger Medien!

Ist das genial!

Wir von den deutsch­spra­chi­gen Medi­en wis­sen ja nicht was im Ver­trag steht.
Wir von den deutsch­spra­chi­gen Medi­en wis­sen ja nicht was das über­haupt soll.
Wir von den deutsch­spra­chi­gen Medi­en haben ja nur die letz­te Sei­te gesehen.
Gut da gabs Trup­pen­auf­stel­lun­gen, aber das kann ja alles bedeuten.
Und wenn wir das regie­rungs­fi­nan­zier­te DW sind, ver­ges­sen wir damals im Bei­trag schon mal über­haupt zu erwäh­nen, was Putin da in die Kame­ra hält. Auch wenn wirs fast 15 Sekun­den lang zeigen…

Enter Ukrain­s­ka Pravda:

Head of Ukraine’s lea­ding par­ty claims Rus­sia pro­po­sed “peace” in exchan­ge for neutrality
OLENA ROSHCHINAFRIDAY, 24 NOVEMBER 2023, 22:51

Davyd Arak­ha­mi­ia, lea­der of the Ser­vant of the Peop­le fac­tion who led the Ukrai­ni­an dele­ga­ti­on at “peace” talks with the Rus­si­ans in Bela­rus and Tür­ki­ye in 2022, said that the Rus­si­an dele­ga­ti­on pro­mi­sed Kyiv peace in exchan­ge for refu­sing to join NATO, but the Ukrai­ni­ans did not belie­ve them. 

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Thats the fluff version.

Here is the in depth one:

[Auto gene­ra­ted sub­tit­les trans­la­ted by you­tube and ChatGPT 3.5 - both used to crea­te the final ver­si­on of this transcript.]

Nata­li­ia Mosei­chuk: What were they wil­ling to do if they lea­ve all the­se things here… 

Davyd Arak­ha­mi­ia: We need to under­stand, in words they were wil­ling to do a lot of things in words we unders­tood, that ever­yo­ne has their own game, each side has their own game, well so this game direct­ly depen­deds on suc­ces­ses or fail­u­res on the front. Well in words they said that - ever­ything. We are going home whe­re you were, the­re - take it all and then in detail, that we will wait until you accept ever­ything, becau­se we can under­stand how you act. You will sign some­thing and then we will lea­ve, you will say that it is a shame­ful mat­ter and do not­hing - and they always bla­med you for not ful­fil­ling this Minsk agree­ment. You signed and rati­fied it, but you don’t imple­ment it and des­pi­te the pre­sence of inter­na­tio­nal gua­ran­tees, it does­n’t work so we can talk to you, but only when tanks are stan­ding out­side the par­lia­ment. Conditionally.

Nata­li­ia Mosei­chuk: And look, Putin show­ed a docu­ment - and during the nego­tia­ti­ons with the Afri­can dele­ga­ti­on, he demons­tra­ted it, clai­ming that it was a draft of a peace­ful agree­ment with Ukrai­ne. And sup­po­sed­ly, this docu­ment was crea­ted in Istan­bul. This docu­ment was cal­led the agree­ment on Ukraine’s per­ma­nent neu­tra­li­ty and secu­ri­ty gua­ran­tees. Putin said that the­re were 18 arti­cles, and I quo­te “ever­ything was spe­ci­fied, from mili­ta­ry equip­ment to the per­son­nel of the Ukrai­ni­an armed for­ces”. He said that the­re was the signa­tu­re of the head of the dele­ga­ti­on, so Putin clai­med. Why did­n’t he make this docu­ment public? 

Davyd Arak­ha­mi­ia: You paid atten­ti­on. [GERMAN SPEAKING MEDIA ANYONE? SOMEONE WANT TO PITCH IN HERE? MAYBE?] Why do you think that if he had the docu­ment, he would have made it public? 

Nata­li­ia Mosei­chuk: The goal of the Ukrai­ni­an dele­ga­ti­on was to delay the pro­cess, while the goal of the Rus­si­an dele­ga­ti­on was…?

Davyd Arak­ha­mi­ia: The goal of the Rus­si­an dele­ga­ti­on in my opi­ni­on was to show that they real­ly, real­ly hoped until almost the end that they would pres­su­re us to sign the agree­ment so that we would take neu­tra­li­ty. This was the big­gest thing for them, for them to be rea­dy to end the war. If we, let’s take Fin­land as an examp­le, they once had neu­tra­li­ty and made a com­mit­ment that they will not join NATO. Except for one point, well actual­ly the key point was this -- ever­ything else the­re was cos­me­tic poli­ti­cal sea­so­nings like den­azi­fi­ca­ti­on of the Russian-speaking popu­la­ti­on and blah-blah-blah.

Nata­li­ia Mosei­chuk: Why did Ukrai­ne not agree to this point?

Davyd Arak­ha­mi­ia: Well first of all in order to agree to this point, you need to chan­ge the con­sti­tu­ti­on, our path to NATO is writ­ten in the Con­sti­tu­ti­on. Second­ly the­re is no trust and the­re was no trust that the Rus­si­ans would do it. This could only be done if the­re were secu­ri­ty gua­ran­tees. [Nafta­li Ben­nett saw that dif­fer­ent­ly.] Well, we could­n’t just sign some­thing - and then they would have retrea­ted and ever­yo­ne would have taken a breath and then they would have come back more pre­pa­red - becau­se they actual­ly ent­e­red unpre­pa­red [! ah, unpre­pa­red AND unpro­vo­ked! Gre­at!], yes, to such resis­tance. The­re­fo­re this could only work when the­re is a hund­red per­cent cer­tain­ty, that this will not hap­pen again. And the­re is no such cer­tain­ty anymore.

Moreo­ver, when we retur­ned from Istan­bul, Boris John­son came to Kyiv and said that we would not sign anything with them at all and “let’s just fight”.

Nata­li­ia Mosei­chuk: Am I under­stan­ding cor­rect­ly that the arri­val of Boris John­son was like a fire truck that flew in alrea­dy? When I say this - its com­ing not from mys­elf, I say it on behalf of tho­se peop­le who are cur­r­ent­ly oppo­sing the poli­ti­cal power in Ukrai­ne, from inter­nal peop­le who said that you could alrea­dy have signed the­se treache­rous agree­ments on the neu­tral sta­tus of Ukrai­ne, but as soon as John­son arri­ved, he said “no agree­ments at all”?

Davyd Arak­ha­mi­ia: Thats what only peop­le who want to twist any event the­re say in poli­ti­cal [not audi­ble, but only one word] - in order for us to be able to sign, look - no, I could­n’t sign it, nor any mem­ber of the dele­ga­ti­on. We don’t even have the legal right to sign anything, right? So, it would only theo­re­ti­cal­ly be pos­si­ble, if the­re was a mee­ting bet­ween Zelen­sky and Putin, theo­re­ti­cal­ly sign some­thing after­wards. Then it would have to be rati­fied in par­lia­ment. So when peop­le say this, they are only say­ing it to an unpre­pa­red rea­der or view­er or listener.

Nata­li­ia Mosei­chuk: How much was this pro­cess, Bela­rus and Istan­bul, to what extent was this pro­cess influ­en­ced by Washing­ton, Lon­don, War­saw, by Berlin…

Davyd Arak­ha­mi­ia: Not at all. It was not con­trol­led, but it was done by agree­ment, so they unders­tood that we had a group immedia­te­ly crea­ted, a group of secu­ri­ty advi­sors of the­se coun­tries, our part­ners, but we gave them infor­ma­ti­on in a mea­su­red way - from a legal point of view, a litt­le bit of infor­ma­ti­on so that it would not spill out -- you see that ever­ything went dis­creet­ly, becau­se what we were doing was dosing it. So they knew ever­ything, espe­cial­ly when we were draf­ting some docu­ments, they had access to all docu­ments and we con­sul­ted with them of cour­se, becau­se we unders­tood that we could not win the war our­sel­ves so we defi­ni­te­ly need them. They were hap­py to con­sult with us and they actual­ly and advi­sed us not to go with any ephe­me­ral secu­ri­ty gua­ran­tees, that could not be given at that time at all, and they say, it’s just an attempt to somehow claim that we suc­cess­ful­ly accom­plis­hed it. I belie­ve that if on a ten-point sca­le, eight points, we defi­ni­te­ly suc­cee­ded. So we did it in such a way that they went with it, they rela­xed a litt­le, and then ever­ything shifted com­ple­te­ly in the mili­ta­ry direction.

Ah, what a reli­ef to hear that, isnt it?

REMEMBER THE IMPORTANCE OF BUTCHA?! Thats But­cher and not Buc­ca? Remem­ber when the BBC for­get to men­ti­on 1000 Rus­si­an sol­di­ers kil­led in their docu­men­ta­ry?

Die­se Gesell­schaft ist das abso­lut gro­tesk und abar­tigst Allerletzte.

Dar­aus erge­ben sich min­des­tens fünf Lügen die alle deutsch­spra­chi­gen Qua­li­täts­me­di­en zu Kriegs­be­ginn pro­pa­giert haben. Nur damit wir uns verstehen.

Bonus: NATO at this sta­ge of cour­se was not invol­ved in no way at all, an’ this is NOT a pro­xy war:

Davyd Arak­ha­mi­ia: And he [Lukas­hen­ko] then said that we will not fight with Ukrai­ne, he said. He can’t. He honest­ly said, I can’t [not] allow them to use my infra­st­ruc­tu­re and not cross the bor­der of Ukrai­ne through Bela­rus, or launch mis­si­les, but I gua­ran­tee that no Bela­ru­si­an sol­dier will cross the bor­der of Ukrai­ne. We did­n’t belie­ve it and the­re were many pro­vo­ca­ti­ons that were thrown at us, some hea­vy ones said that dis­gui­sed Bela­ru­si­an sol­di­ers were figh­t­ing, but then -

Nata­li­ia Mosei­chuk: It was never confirmed. 

Davyd Arak­ha­mi­ia: Well, you have to give credit whe­re credit is due, the word of Gry­go­ro­vych still holds. He deman­ded some­thing from Ukrai­ne, he did­n’t demand anything at all, he offe­red his ser­vices as a media­tor. He then we agreed to meet at the Belarus-Ukraine bor­der, we agreed to meet in the Bia­lo­wie­za Forest, yes, he said, this is my Fazen­da or some­thing, he has hun­ting esta­tes the­re. And he says come the­re and we went. 

Well, the logistics were so dif­fi­cult. We went by train first to Poland, then from Poland we boar­ded the­se Black­hawk NATO heli­co­p­ters to a mili­ta­ry base in Bela­rus. It seems that it was one of only a few times when NATO heli­co­p­ters lan­ded on the ter­ri­to­ry of Bela­rus… And then trans­fer­red to Bela­ru­si­an mili­ta­ry heli­co­p­ters and then lan­ded there.

They were ner­vous, Lukas­hen­ko gave each mem­ber of the dele­ga­ti­on two or three body­guards. So the­re were three times more body­guards than negotiators.

The goal of the­se nego­tia­ti­ons was to crea­te a sen­se of suc­cess in the initi­al phase.

He said that you need to make them feel that they can talk to us. Becau­se if you remem­ber, in the first few mon­ths, the Rus­si­ans pushed the mes­sa­ge that the Zelen­sky government was ille­gi­ti­ma­te, after the Mai­dan, after the coup, and so on. And after the second Ses­si­on it seems Putin came out on TV and said that we reco­gni­ze Zelen­skys government as legi­ti­ma­te and we will nego­tia­te with it. 

Nata­li­ia Mosei­chuk: So this pha­se was successful. 

Davyd Arak­ha­mi­ia: Yeah, this was the first goal and the second goal was to buy time. So we were basi­cal­ly buil­ding a smokescreen.

Ah, the good old, board some polish NATO Black­hawks to fly into Bela­rus for your first dis­cus­sions with the Rus­si­an dele­ga­ti­on move.

Not a pro­xy war at all! NATO? What NATO? This was a logistics pro­blem, you see - one that only could be over­co­me by first riding into Poland, then boar­ding NATO black hawk heli­co­p­ters, and then…

Well, then the CIA and the MI6 had to crea­te their own depart­ments wit­hin the ukrai­ni­an secret sevice of cour­se. And then the Ukrai­ne had to crea­te a war con­sul­tancy panel fil­led with NATO experts to con­sult with, even befo­re any nego­tia­ti­ons, and then…

All of the mili­ta­ry equip­ment had to come from the west of cour­se.. But pro­xy war? Which pro­xy war?

Die­se Gesell­schaft ist das abso­lut gro­tesk und abar­tigst Allerletzte.

edit: ChatGPT 3.5 trans­la­ted auto­ge­ne­ra­ted sub­tit­les, use them in com­bi­na­ti­on with the goog­le auto trans­la­ted ones to have a second trans­la­ted version:

click

Oh, and by the way - all of this is ukrai­ni­an “Lets not hold elec­tions this year! marketing.”

Why? Pre­sen­ta­ti­on, pre­sen­ta­ti­on, presentation.

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Lets inst­ruct a child to thumbs up:
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Das ist was die Ukrai­ne zu Gesicht bekommt, wäh­rend der Stan­dard die Öster­rei­cher mit “größ­ter rus­si­scher Rake­ten­an­griff bis­her über­haupt” zuscheisst, damit sie mehr Geld geben.

Damit die Ukrai­ner dann auf den zwei­ten ein­ge­streu­ten Gesprächs­punkt [den im Intro gefea­tur­ten Haupt­ge­sprächs­punkt] bes­ser reagieren…

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Die­se Gesell­schaft ist das abso­lut gro­tesk und abar­tigst Allerletzte.

edit: Es gibt aber natür­lich auch wie­der gute Nach­rich­ten. Am sel­ben Tag:

Kei­ne Angst, ist nur ZDF heu­te, die haben eine Tref­fer­quo­te von “auch ein blin­des Huhn.…”.

edit: Kon­text: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt32ZJ0ekb4

The not at all staged attack on Mariupol maternity ward - part 3

24. November 2023

Just goog­ling for back­ground infor­ma­ti­on on some of the alle­ged fac­to­ids of the Mariu­pol mater­ni­ty ward bom­bing - I came across the fol­lowing wri­te up of IPHR a Brussels based Human rights NGO, which went online on March 22, 2022 - and in all aspects and scope is bet­ter than the OSCE report or any of the media reports that I’ve read so far. (see: The Labour of Truth: Russia’s Attack on a Mater­ni­ty Hos­pi­tal in Mariu­pol as a War Crime)

It comes to the fol­lowing conclusion:

It is obvious that no mat­ter how desper­ate­ly the Rus­si­an side seeks to jus­ti­fy the inhu­man attack by its armed for­ces on the mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal in Mariu­pol, two things remain obvious: their mani­pu­la­ti­on of the facts and their lies about the rea­sons for the bom­bing. Cer­tain­ly, it is necessa­ry to con­duct a more in-depth inves­ti­ga­ti­on into all the cir­cum­s­tan­ces of this attack. Howe­ver, at this sta­ge, the­re are alrea­dy more than suf­fi­ci­ent grounds to claim that the Rus­si­an side has com­mit­ted a war crime, for which all tho­se invol­ved should be held accountable.

Here is some of their arguing:

At the UN Secu­ri­ty coun­cil mee­ting the rus­si­an fede­ra­ti­on often refe­red to Mater­ni­ty Hos­pi­tal Nr. 1, which was not the one bom­bed. The one bom­bed was a mul­tipur­po­se com­plex pro­vi­ding several medi­cal ser­vices for women and child­ren of dif­fe­rent ages. Name­ly -- Mariu­pol Ter­ri­to­ri­al Medi­cal Asso­cia­ti­on for Children’s and Women’s Health. Both have deci­ded­ly dif­fe­rent addresses.

That said, the ent­i­re Media coverage still pre­fe­red to talk about it as the bom­bing of a Mater­ni­ty hospital.

So thats fun, becau­se the argu­ments made by the Rus­si­an side in the Secu­ri­ty Coun­cil mee­tings now also dont just con­cern one and the same loca­ti­on, but two dif­fe­rent ones.

The rus­si­an side clai­med, that Azow was sta­tio­ned the­re, while the­re is no media pro­of for that mat­ter, but the­re are alle­ged media reports of two com­pa­nies of the 36th mari­ne Bri­ga­de of the Ukrai­ne Armed for­ces having been the­re, its just that they arent asso­cia­ted with the Azow batal­li­on. Azow batal­li­on pro­bab­ly was used for its reco­gni­ti­on value. (Also, the one alle­ged report from “Igor” the son of one of the employees also men­ti­ons Azow, but sta­tes that he isnt sure who it was that came and - accord­ing to them “took over a mater­ni­ty hospital”.)

The main point is the deci­ded lack of pro­of for the alle­ga­ti­ons that the­re were Ukrai­ni­an com­ba­tants sta­tio­ned at the hos­pi­tal. None of the video or pho­to foo­ta­ge released shows anything of the kind. Evge­niy Malo­let­ka, when asked direct­ly also repor­ted on more than one occa­si­on, that they saw not­hing that would imply mili­ta­ry use (src, for examp­le: click)

The NGO specifies:

The only source that con­tains such first-hand infor­ma­ti­on is the report in the abo­ve men­tio­ned arti­cle by Lenta.ru. Howe­ver, this arti­cle was publis­hed only a day befo­re the attack on the mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal of the Mariu­pol Ter­ri­to­ri­al Medi­cal Asso­cia­ti­on for Children’s and Women’s Health, and second­ly, it was publis­hed after Nebenzya’s speech at the UN Secu­ri­ty Coun­cil on 7 March and was remo­ved altog­e­ther soon after. Thus, Ser­gey Lavrov’s claim that he was moni­to­ring the situa­ti­on and had been acquain­ted with “emo­tio­nal­ly com­po­sed reports in the media” (alle­ged­ly, he had recei­ved infor­ma­ti­on about the sei­zu­re of the medi­cal insti­tu­ti­on three days befo­re the attack)[17] can­not be con­si­de­red reli­able. As one of the employees of the medi­cal insti­tu­ti­on noted, “the­re were pro­blems with hea­ting, electri­ci­ty, and water in the hos­pi­tal, as well as with baby food”. As for the fal­se Rus­si­an state­ments that Ukrai­ni­an com­ba­tants were hiding in the hos­pi­tal, she exp­lains, “Azov Bat­tali­on repre­sen­ta­ti­ves were in the hos­pi­tal on 3 March, they brought a who­le truck­load of huma­ni­ta­ri­an aid – dia­pers, baby food, cos­me­tics. The hos­pi­tal was shel­led on 9 March”.[18]

That said, the arti­cle is back online again. But can not be con­si­de­red reli­able is fair.

As for the alle­ga­ti­on, that the bomb cra­ter could not have been cau­sed by an ungui­ded bomb, it is sta­ted, that rus­sia has used them in this con­flict, has had a histo­ry of tar­ge­ting civi­li­an infra­st­ruc­tu­re in Syria, and alle­ged­ly used the same bombs in a bom­bing run on the city of Mariu­pol on the fol­lowing day.

The alle­ga­ti­on that the explo­si­on cra­ter was cau­sed by a Ukrai­ni­an mine meant to blow up the hos­pi­tal. Befo­re ana­ly­sing the explo­si­on cra­ter in the pho­to, it is necessa­ry to refer to the inter­ro­ga­ti­on of a Rus­si­an pri­so­ner of war, pilot Alex­an­der Kras­noy­arts­ev, during which he said that Rus­si­an mili­ta­ry com­mand deli­ber­ate­ly orders bom­bings of civi­li­an infra­st­ruc­tu­re and resi­den­ti­al are­as of Ukrai­ni­an Addi­tio­nal­ly, ins­tead of using precision- gui­ded muni­ti­ons, as clai­med by Rus­si­an mili­ta­ry com­man­ders and pro­pa­gan­dists, he said that they were using free-fall bombs (not precision-guided) OFAB-250-270, FAB-500, OFZAB-500. It should be noted that befo­re Russia’s cur­rent armed aggres­si­on against Ukrai­ne, Rus­sia used the same ungui­ded bombs in Syria.[21]

The natu­re of the dest­ruc­tion and the shape of the cra­ter fol­lowing the explo­si­on at the Mariu­pol hos­pi­tal indi­ca­te that it was cau­sed by an air­craft bomb, at least a modi­fi­ca­ti­on of the FAB-500. This type of bomb is cha­rac­te­ri­sed by a cra­ter of the same geo­metric shape, up to 8.5 m deep, while the maxi­mum radi­us of dest­ruc­tion of such a bomb for vul­nerable vehi­cles is 110-190 m.[23] All this is evi­dent from the video taken at the bomb­site near the Mariu­pol mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal on 9 March. It is obvious that the tech­ni­cal cha­rac­te­ris­tics of at least a 500- kg high-explosive bomb cor­re­spond to the gene­ral pic­tu­re of the dest­ruc­tion after the bom­bing of the mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal and the other near­by hos­pi­tal buil­ding of the Mariu­pol Ter­ri­to­ri­al Medi­cal Asso­cia­ti­on for Children’s and Women’s Health.

It should also be noted that on 10 March, Rus­si­an tro­ops car­ri­ed out ano­t­her air raid on the city and bom­bed its down­town, clo­se to a local dra­ma theat­re. The natu­re of the con­se­quen­ces of this bom­bing – the form of the cra­ter and the dest­ruc­tion cau­sed by the bom­bing – are qui­te simi­lar to the con­se­quen­ces of the bom­bing of the hospital.[24] Thus, it can be con­clu­ded that Rus­si­an tro­ops pur­po­se­ful­ly and repeated­ly used high-explosive bombs against civilians.

The NGO sta­tes further:

The dest­ruc­tion of the pre­mi­ses of the mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal of the Mariu­pol Ter­ri­to­ri­al Medi­cal Asso­cia­ti­on for Children’s and Women’s Health its­elf is sim­ply cata­stro­phic, in stark con­trast to the state­ments of the Rus­si­an repre­sen­ta­ti­ve to the UN.

Which only is part­ly correct.

They refer to this photo:

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Which shows the part of the des­troy­ed area most high­ly impac­ted by the explosion.

The rus­si­an news out­let refe­ren­ced in the OECD report likes to show a dif­fe­rent image:

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src: click
Which is more in line with the two explo­si­ons theo­ry brought for­ward by the same website.

Quo­te:

Accord­ing to experts, the shape and size of the cra­ters do not cor­re­spond to the dama­ge to the hos­pi­tal buil­ding and cars , the Rea­dov­ka por­tal repor­ted . The­re are no pene­tra­ti­on holes in the walls, that is, holes cha­rac­te­ris­tic of airstrikes. The­re are no signs of fire in the hos­pi­tal buil­dings, and the frames are not bro­ken. The trees around one of the cra­ters are inta­ct, which means that it appeared as a result of an explo­si­on from under­ground of an explo­si­ve char­ge weig­hing up to 100 kg in TNT equi­va­lent, buried 1.5-2 meters deep.

src: click

The argu­ment that the­re are no signs of fire, and the frame of the buil­ding is most­ly unda­ma­ged, is cor­rect. Its just that that one part, is hea­vi­ly damaged.

In stark con­trast to the state­ments of the Rus­si­an repre­sen­ta­ti­ve to the UN is still a fair state­ment though.

Then as a third argu­ment the con­fu­si­on about the beau­ty blog­ger being on the sce­ne and the alle­ga­ti­ons made on her behalf are men­tio­ned and right­ful­ly debunked.

Becau­se of all that it is argued, that the rus­si­an side resor­ted to con­fu­sing the mat­ter with a bunch of alle­ga­ti­ons that side­tra­cked the mat­ter - which is then framed as: “Two things remain obvious: their mani­pu­la­ti­on of the facts and their lies about the rea­sons for the bombing.”

Which in the NGOs argu­ment leads to the fol­lowing conclusion:

Cer­tain­ly, it is necessa­ry to con­duct a more in-depth inves­ti­ga­ti­on into all the cir­cum­s­tan­ces of this attack. Howe­ver, at this sta­ge, the­re are alrea­dy more than suf­fi­ci­ent grounds to claim that the Rus­si­an side has com­mit­ted a war crime, for which all tho­se invol­ved should be held accountable.”

With the most dam­ning pie­ce of cir­cum­stan­ti­al evi­dence being -

It should also be noted that on 10 March, Rus­si­an tro­ops car­ri­ed out ano­t­her air raid on the city and bom­bed its down­town, clo­se to a local dra­ma theatre.

That said, none of this is con­clu­si­ve pro­of. And if I’d plan an infor­ma­ti­on ope­ra­ti­on, red herings like an actual­ly pregnant social media influ­en­cer at the sce­ne, tal­king about this being a mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal, when it was a gene­ral pur­po­se womens health hos­pi­tal, and sta­ging two explo­si­ons - then con­trol­ling the infor­ma­ti­on until my star repor­ter arri­ves at the sce­ne (social media reports did­n’t leak befo­re­hand), is not bey­ond the scope of imagination.

That rus­si­ans clai­med that Azow had taken over the faci­li­ty is just good pro­pa­gan­da posi­tio­ning. You’d pro­bab­ly do that just to cover the public per­cep­ti­on ang­le, that you had to do it, becau­se it was against “the bad guys”.

Here are a few other inte­res­ting tidbits.

The hos­pi­tal alle­ged­ly was bom­bed around 16:00 pm. Rus­si­an alle­ga­ti­ons that able peop­le who could lea­ve, would have pro­bab­ly left by the time the jour­na­list arri­ved and star­ted to docu­ment the bom­bing, rely on the assump­ti­on that the bom­bing was done “mid day”. That infor­ma­ti­on wasnt trick­ling out until the evening can be exp­lai­ned by an infor­ma­ti­on blo­cka­de (no inter­net except at that one spot).

Its also curious, that to this day Wiki­pe­dia sta­tes that Mater­ni­ty Hos­pi­tal No 3 was bom­bed when it wasnt. Mariu­pols City Hos­pi­tal No. 3 was bombed.

Also, in some record­ings of the inci­dent the sound of an air­pla­ne might have been iden­ti­fied. I havent men­tio­ned that befo­re, and I thought I’ve read it during my rese­arch - but I cur­r­ent­ly cant find any refe­ren­ces - which is my bad entirely.
edit: Found it: click

Its just inte­res­ting, that the OECD report is an utter pile of gar­ba­ge not loo­king at the actu­al claims, and - well the Cher­nov sto­ry is an epi­so­de in itself…

Oh, and rus­sia never clai­med that the alle­ged “sta­ging” didnt inclu­de an explo­si­on that shat­te­red all the win­dows on the buil­ding, in fact the­re are wit­ness accounts that it did.

Oh and the­re WERE two explo­si­ons. See: click (AP)

edit: Oh, and we have an alle­ged moti­ve now. Ter­ror in ser­vice of the psy­cho­lo­gi­cal war­fa­re cam­pai­gn to take over the city of Mariu­pol - quick­ly. Mili­ta­ry pro­pa­gan­da state­ments like “they wont last for more than a week” were spik­ed throughout rus­si­an media at right around the same time.

edit2: The “Pho­to illus­tra­ti­on” used by Kom­so­mol­ska­ya Prav­da apar­ent­ly was used by other rus­si­an media chan­nels in the week befo­re, indi­ca­ting that it would have been Mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal No. 1. (A dif­fe­rent hos­pi­tal.) See: click

The not at all staged attack on Mariupol maternity ward - part 2

24. November 2023

Say hel­lo to the OSCE report! Ok, wrong tone, lets start over…

Here is the OSCE report, and its get­ting worse and worse, and worse, …

a. MARIUPOL MATERNITY HOUSE AND CHILDREN’S HOSPITAL

On 9 March 2022 the Mariu­pol Mater­ni­ty House and Children’s Hos­pi­tal with 390 beds was serious­ly dama­ged by an attack, which resul­ted in 3 deaths and some 17 inju­ries (at least one inju­red pregnant woman and her sub­se­quent­ly deli­ve­r­ed baby later died of the­se injuries).371

All non-Russian sources indi­ca­te that the hos­pi­tal was clear­ly iden­ti­fia­ble and ope­ra­tio­nal at the time it was hit.372

[372 See e.g. Kat­ie Polgla­se, Gian­lu­ca Mez­zo­fio­re and Liv­vy Doh­erty, ‘Ana­to­my of the Mariu­pol hos­pi­tal attack’,
CNN, 17 March 2022, at:
https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2022/03/europe/mariupol-maternity-hospital-attack/index.html
[Acces­si­ble as of 24.11.2023

Con­tent:

Nota­ble Points include:
March 9, 12:05 pm.
Just a cou­p­le if hours befo­re the attack, Rus­si­an For­eign Minis­try spo­kes­wo­man Maria Zak­ha­ro­va said hos­pi­tal No.3 was empty of staff and pati­ents and being used as a firing position.

CNN has found no evi­dence to sup­port Russia’s alle­ga­ti­ons that the­re were mili­ta­ry posi­ti­ons set up at Hos­pi­tal No. 3 on the after­noon of March 9, and it was civi­li­ans who emer­ged from the bombed-out buildings.

CNN then shows one of the befo­re images shared by the Twit­ter account men­tio­ned later, this time inclu­ding a time­code (March 9, 10:16 am) iden­ti­fy­ing four cars.

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CNN then indi­ca­tes that this means, that the hos­pi­tal was ful­ly operational.

The other “befo­re” shot pos­ted on the Twit­ter account refe­ren­ced later, showing noti­ce­ab­ly more cars, is not shown on CNN.

CNN refe­ren­ces one wea­pons expert tel­ling CNN that this was undoub­ted­ly an air drop­ped muni­ti­on, and a big one weig­hing at least 450kg.

CNN sta­tes, that Rus­si­an For­eign minis­ter Lav­rov went back to “his ori­gi­nal line” that this attack was jus­ti­fied at the UN Secu­ri­ty Coun­cil the day after the attack. He alle­ged, that the hos­pi­tal was a base for the Azov batal­li­on which is inte­gra­ted into the Ukrai­ni­an armed for­ces but was form­er­ly an inde­pen­dent ultra-nationalist militia.

[Con­text, the Azow Mili­ta­ry aca­de­my is in clo­se vicini­ty to the Mater­nal Hos­pi­tal building.]]

Back to the OSCE report:

See also https://www.reuters.com/world/mariupol-hospital-bombing-killed-three-people-including-child-ukraines-president-2022-03-10/ ;

[Acces­si­ble as of 24.11.2023

Con­tent in full:

LVIV, Ukrai­ne, March 10 (Reu­ters) - Three peop­le inclu­ding a child were kil­led in Wednesday’s air strike on a mater­ni­ty and children’s hos­pi­tal in the Ukrai­ni­an city of Mariu­pol, Pre­si­dent Volo­dym­yr Zelens­kiy said on Thursday.

In a tele­vi­sed address, he said Russia’s asser­ti­on that the hos­pi­tal had no pati­ents was not true. “Like always, they lie con­fi­dent­ly,” he said.

Repor­ting by Pavel Poli­ty­uk, Wri­ting by Ales­san­dra Pren­ti­ce, Edi­t­ing by Timo­thy Heritage”

Refe­ren­cing hear­say from Pre­si­dent Zelenskiy.].

https://ukranews.com/news/840022-rossijskie-okkupantysovershili-aviaudar-na-detskuyu-bolnitsu-i-roddom-v-mariupole.

[Acces­si­ble as of Fri­day 24.11.2023, Con­tent: Rus­si­an tro­ops car­ri­ed out an air strike on the cen­ter of Mariu­pol: a mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal, a hos­pi­tal, a children’s depart­ment and a the­ra­py depart­ment were des­troy­ed. The head of the Donetsk regio­nal mili­ta­ry admi­nis­tra­ti­on, Pavel Kiri­len­ko, announ­ced this on March 9 on his Face­book page.
“Just now, a Rus­si­an pilot, who pro­bab­ly does not hesi­ta­te to call hims­elf a human being, pul­led the trig­ger again, knowing exact­ly whe­re the bomb will fly. Rus­si­ans! You have not only cros­sed the limit of unac­cep­ta­ble rela­ti­ons bet­ween sta­tes and peo­p­les. You have cros­sed the limit of huma­ni­ty. Stop cal­ling yourself peop­le!” he noted.]

The ori­gi­nal face­book pos­ting the arti­cle refers to, is not avail­ab­le any­mo­re and was taken down. Also -- none of what is acces­si­ble in the third arti­cle is “pro­of that the hos­pi­tal was still ope­ra­tio­nal” - as the OSCE alle­ges, nor is anything in the second arti­cle. Remem­ber this is the foot­no­te with all the con­text that appar­ent­ly pro­ves this for the OSCE.]

This has been veri­fied by the HRMMU373 and several tes­ti­mo­nies on social and other media, and the geo­lo­ca­ti­on of the accom­pany­ing images con­firm this.374

[373 UN, Office of the High Com­mis­sio­ner for Human Rights, ‘Update on the Human Rights Situa­ti­on in Ukraine’,
Repor­ting peri­od: 24 February–26 March 2022, 28 March 2022, at: https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/2022-03/HRMMU_Update_2022-03-26_EN.pdf, para 18.

Acces­si­ble as of 24.11.2023, here is the refe­ren­ced para­graph 18:

HRMMU has veri­fied the dest­ruc­tion of Mariu­pol hos­pi­tal No. 3 by a Rus­si­an air strike that took place on 9 March. Several sources in Mariu­pol, inclu­ding local aut­ho­ri­ties, repor­ted that the hos­pi­tal was clear­ly iden­ti­fia­ble and ope­ra­tio­nal at the time it was hit. Seven­te­en civi­li­ans (inclu­ding health­ca­re workers, child­ren, and pregnant women) were inju­red, one of whom was a woman at a very late sta­ge of pregnan­cy. Neit­her the woman nor her unborn child could be saved.

Con­tent: Hear­say from local aut­ho­ri­ties, and several other unna­med sources.]
[374 Sput­nik News ATO (@SputnikATO), Twit­ter, 9 March 2022, at: https://twitter.com/SputnikATO/status/1501570825803161610?s=20&t=qwvZoLqRXce2VC0cAkVOog;

Con­tent not acces­si­ble as of 24.11.2023, but archi­ved on archive.org: Video accord­ing to the tweet descrip­ti­on and the archi­ved video thumb­nail shows the Mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal after the bombing.]

In addi­ti­on images taken just befo­re and after the attack pro­ve that it was an ope­ra­tio­nal hos­pi­tal and that it was severely dama­ged by the attack.375

[375 Mike Eckel (@Mike_Eckel), Twit­ter, 12 march 2022, at: https://twitter.com/Mike_Eckel/status/1502735991379042315 .

Twit­ter post acces­si­ble as of 24.11.2023

Con­tent: In the twit­ter post by a repor­ter named Mike Eckel, working for Radio free Europe/Radio liber­ty -- we see two befo­re images. Only one with “more than 4 cars” which is the only indi­ca­ti­on that could be used as a refe­rence point for the hos­pi­tal still being ope­ra­tio­nal at that point. 

The one with more than four cars is a satel­li­te image image from MAXAR, with no time code in the image visi­ble, or in its meta­da­ta whatsoever. By refe­ren­cing images theguardian.com used to do the same com­pa­ri­son, which were goog­le maps images from 2021, it would seem that the “Befo­re image” was not taken in the same mon­th as the after images, jud­ging by the sun­light reflec­ting from buil­dings roofs, as well as the amounts of cars in the streets. At no point in the twit­ter mes­sa­ge does it sta­te, that the “befo­re images” were taken recent­ly. Nor any date, actually…]

Rus­sia first qua­li­fied this inci­dent as a fake news376 

[376 Eli­z­a­ve­ta Luka­schu­ko­va, ‘The bom­bing of a mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal in Mariu­pol tur­ned out to be a fake. Here are all the pho­to and video blun­ders and incon­sis­ten­ci­es’, Yamal News, 11 March 2022, at: https://yamal-media.ru/narrative/roddom-v-mariupole.

Acces­si­ble as of 24.11.2024.

Con­tent:

The bom­bing of a mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal in Mariu­pol tur­ned out to be a fake. Here are all the pho­to and video mista­kes and inconsistencies

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What’s wrong with pho­tos and videos?
The inde­pen­dent pro­ject “War on Fake News” noted that infor­ma­ti­on about the airstrike appeared in the midd­le of the day, and pho­tos and vide­os from the sce­ne, inclu­ding foo­ta­ge of pregnant women, appeared in the media and social net­works later , on the evening of March 9.

Among others, the pho­to­graphs were publis­hed by the famous Ukrai­ni­an pho­to­gra­pher Evge­niy Malo­let­ka. In one pro­fes­sio­nal pho­to, a pregnant woman walks down the stairs with bags in her hands as she lea­ves the buil­ding. It can be assu­med that if the­re real­ly were women in labor in the alle­ged­ly shel­led hos­pi­tal, res­cuers and eye­wit­nes­ses would have immedia­te­ly pos­ted pho­to­graphs from the sce­ne of the emer­gen­cy, rather than wai­t­ing for the pho­to­gra­pher to arri­ve, and living and unin­ju­red peop­le would have alrea­dy left the hospital.

In the pho­to­graph whe­re a woman in labor is wal­king down the stairs, the­re was a Ukrai­ni­an model and beau­ty blog­ger Mari­an­na, who is now real­ly pregnant. Accord­ing to the aut­hors of the pro­ject, the girl posed for three high-profile pho­tos with women in labor from this hos­pi­tal. Insta­gram users also drew atten­ti­on to Marianne’s par­ti­ci­pa­ti­on in the pro­duc­tion; in the comments, they con­dem­ned the model for par­ti­ci­pa­ting in news stories.

Accord­ing to experts, the shape and size of the cra­ters do not cor­re­spond to the dama­ge to the hos­pi­tal buil­ding and cars , the Rea­dov­ka por­tal repor­ted . The­re are no pene­tra­ti­on holes in the walls, that is, holes cha­rac­te­ris­tic of airstrikes. The­re are no signs of fire in the hos­pi­tal buil­dings, and the frames are not bro­ken. The trees around one of the cra­ters are inta­ct, which means that it appeared as a result of an explo­si­on from under­ground of an explo­si­ve char­ge weig­hing up to 100 kg in TNT equi­va­lent, buried 1.5-2 meters deep.

The­re are still incon­sis­ten­ci­es. In the video insi­de the buil­ding that Zelen­sky publis­hed, a house across the road with a yel­low cor­ner can be seen through the win­dow. Jud­ging by Gogg­le Maps, this is a house at 84 Mira Ave­nue. Oppo­si­te it is not a mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal at all, but a children’s oph­thal­mo­lo­gy depart­ment . The mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal - a two-story brown buil­ding - is loca­ted 500 meters from the “explo­si­on site”, and it is not in the video.

Offi­cial denial
On March 7, Rus­si­an Per­ma­nent Repre­sen­ta­ti­ve to the UN Vasi­ly Neben­zya spo­ke about the plight of civi­li­ans in Ukrai­ni­an cities who are dying at the hands of radi­cals. They cap­tu­re civi­li­ans and hide behind them, like a living score, the words of the per­ma­nent repre­sen­ta­ti­ve to TASS were repor­ted . Neben­zya said that the Ukrai­ni­an Armed For­ces expel­led the staff of one of the mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tals in Mariu­pol , set up a firing posi­ti­on the­re, and also com­ple­te­ly des­troy­ed the kindergarten.

The Rus­si­an Minis­try of Defen­se also denied infor­ma­ti­on that an airstrike was car­ri­ed out on the Mariu­pol mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal. It fol­lows from the department’s state­ment that on March 9, a regime of silence was decla­red for the evacua­ti­on of civi­li­ans along huma­ni­ta­ri­an cor­ri­dors. The offi­cial repre­sen­ta­ti­ve of the depart­ment, Major Gene­ral Igor Konas­hen­kov, noted that the explo­si­ons were staged.

Pho­to­graphs of the hos­pi­tal grounds con­tain evi­dence of two sepa­ra­te sta­ged explo­si­ons near the hos­pi­tal. A buried under­ground one and ano­t­her one of low power direc­ted into the hos­pi­tal buil­ding. The natu­re of the exter­nal and inter­nal dama­ge to the buil­ding may mis­lead the mass non-professional audi­ence in Euro­pe and the USA, for whom this pro­duc­tion was made. But not experts. A high-explosive air­craft muni­ti­on, even of les­ser power, would sim­ply lea­ve not­hing behind the exter­nal walls of the building

Igor Konas­hen­kov

offi­cial repre­sen­ta­ti­ve of the Rus­si­an Defen­se Ministry

Accord­ing to the Minis­try of Defen­se, medi­cal insti­tu­ti­ons in Mariu­pol stop­ped working at the end of Febru­a­ry, and natio­na­lists disper­sed doc­tors and pati­ents. Hos­pi­tal No. 3 was tur­ned into a strong­hold of the Azov natio­nal bat­tali­on*, ban­ned in the Rus­si­an Fede­ra­ti­on. The fact that the hos­pi­tal was not working is con­fir­med by the comments [link for that is dead alrea­dy, archive.org didnt cap­tu­re the ori­gi­nal mes­sa­ge, and the account is dele­ted by now. First archive.org cap­tu­re was on March 10th so after the inci­dence.] of Mariu­pol resi­dents them­sel­ves in Tele­gram channels.]

and accu­sed Ukrai­ne of having sta­ged it.

Later Rus­sia argued that the buil­ding was used by the Azov Batal­li­on and that all pati­ents had been evacua­ted, inter alia fol­lowing a warning given by Russia.377

[377 Valen­tin Alfi­mov, ‘Who actual­ly bom­bed the children’s hos­pi­tal in Mariu­pol’, KP.ru, 9 March 2022, at:
https://www.kp.ru/daily/27374/4556142/.

Con­tent: Is acces­si­ble as of 24.11.2023. A fluff pie­ce refer­ring to a state­ment of the son of one of the mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tals employees alle­ged­ly having repor­ted in an inter­view with lenta.ru (sto­ry not lin­ked), that the ukrai­ni­an mili­ta­ry disper­sed the per­so­nal from the hos­pi­tal in the last days of febru­a­ry, then alle­ging, that the mili­ta­ry had set up firing posi­ti­ons the­re from then on. Cross refe­ren­cing poten­ti­al offi­cial state­ments of the rus­si­an government -- in the form of a fluff piece.]

This warning alle­ged­ly con­sis­ted of a decla­ra­ti­on by the Rus­si­an repre­sen­ta­ti­ve in the Secu­ri­ty Coun­cil on 7 March 2022.378

[378 ‘Poly­an­sky poin­ted to a fake about a strike on civi­li­ans in a hos­pi­tal in Mariu­pol’, RIA News, 10 March 2022,
at: https://ria.ru/20220310/mariupol-1777388570.html.

Con­tent: Acces­si­ble as of 24.11.2023, here it is in its entirety:

At a UN Secu­ri­ty Coun­cil mee­ting on March 7, Russia’s per­ma­nent repre­sen­ta­ti­ve to the orga­niz­a­ti­on, Vasi­ly Neben­zya , said that resi­dents of Mariu­pol repor­ted: “having expel­led all the per­son­nel of mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal No. 1 of Mariu­pol, the Armed For­ces of Ukrai­ne have equip­ped a firing posi­ti­on in it”; In addi­ti­on, the radi­cals com­ple­te­ly des­troy­ed one of the city kindergartens.”]

A media report try­ing to cor­rob­ora­te this mili­ta­ry use shows a pho­to­graph of a tank and armed per­sons in front of a buil­ding alle­ged to have been the mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal, 379

[379 Valen­tin Alfi­mov, ‘Who actual­ly bom­bed the children’s hos­pi­tal in Mariu­pol’, KP.ru, 9 March 2022, at:
https://www.kp.ru/daily/27374/4556142/.

Same con­tent as abo­ve. The state­ment in the OSCE report is not cor­rect though. The image in the fluff pie­ce is just used for illus­tra­ti­on. Nowhe­re in the arti­cle does it say that it would depict the Mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal in Mariupol.

Nor did it on the the 9th of march see: archive.org but it gets better…]

but this buil­ding does not align with any of the buil­dings wit­hin 1 km of the hos­pi­tal when com­pa­red with satel­li­te image­ry. The shape of the buil­ding is qui­te uni­que and would be detec­ta­ble from above.

Congrats is due for the OSCE debun­king what was never sta­ted in the arti­cle. The shape of the buil­ding is a cross with elon­ga­ted bits at the top, so it would be qui­te easy to spot it in aeri­al photos.

Like­wi­se, a video embed­ded in the article380

[380 War­Gon­zo, You­tube cha­nel, at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4-zYV_6Tgk .]

depic­ting what appears to be a sol­dier with an anti­tank gui­ded mis­si­le on the roof of a buil­ding does not match any buil­dings wit­hin 1 km of the hospital.

Like­wi­se, the arti­cle, a jour­na­listic fluff­pie­ce from a dis­tinct­ly non qua­li­ty media out­let never sta­tes, that the video depicts the Mariu­pol Mater­ni­ty ward. But good on the OSCE inves­ti­ga­ti­on team for debun­king that regard­less… The video abo­ve is not online any­mo­re eit­her btw.

The Per­ma­nent Repre­sen­ta­ti­ve of Rus­sia to the UN, howe­ver, show­ed on 11 March pic­tures of the hos­pi­tal clai­ming that it could not have been hit by a rocket: he show­ed a pho­to of a cra­ter, “which by all indi­ca­ti­ons was for­med as a result of the explo­si­on of a mine plan­ted in the ground”. 381

[381 Per­ma­nent Mis­si­on of the Rus­si­an Fede­ra­ti­on to the UN, State­ment by Per­ma­nent Repre­sen­ta­ti­ve Vas­si­ly Neben­zia at UNSC brie­fing on bio­lo­gi­cal labo­ra­to­ries in Ukrai­ne, 11 March 2022, at:
https://russiaun.ru/en/news/110322n_u .]

Refe­ren­cing:

Think of Raq­qa and Mosul that were razed to the ground. The US-led coali­ti­on buried thousands of civi­li­an lives under the ruins of the­se cities. Dead bodies lay under the rub­ble for several mon­ths, and I can’t remem­ber our col­leagues spil­ling their righ­te­ous anger on that mat­ter. We repeated­ly rai­sed it at UNSC mee­tings, but the topic sim­ply died out and no one would get back to it. Howe­ver not a day goes by without spe­cu­la­ti­ons about atro­ci­ties of Rus­si­an for­ces, dai­ly attacks on hos­pi­tals, kin­der­gar­tens, schools, mater­ni­ty cli­nics, use of clus­ter bombs, which our Defen­se Minis­try refu­t­ed repeatedly.

Mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal #1 in Mariu­pol has beco­me pro­ver­bi­al in this respect. Let me ask – did you lis­ten to what we said here on Mon­day, 7 March? It was about mili­tants and radi­cals tur­ning this buil­ding in a gun post. We war­ned about it back then, but you would not lis­ten, and you do not want to lis­ten to what we say. You saw pic­tures of the mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal alle­ged­ly hit by a bomb or mis­si­le. I also have them here. They show a buil­ding, win­dow­less but not rui­ned. I bet you can ima­gi­ne what should have hap­pen­ed to a buil­ding hit by a bomb or mis­si­le strike, and also to ever­yo­ne insi­de. I have pho­to and video foo­ta­ge from insi­de the buil­ding. It shows a mess, fur­ni­tu­re scat­te­red upsi­de down, and inta­ct chairs.

Let me ask again: can you ima­gi­ne what sort of dama­ge would have been inflic­ted by a bomb or mis­si­le strike? Mili­ta­ry experts could tell you. As a mat­ter of fact, they alrea­dy have. They demons­tra­ted a pho­to of the cra­ter next to the buil­ding. By all indi­ca­ti­ons, it was cau­sed by an under­ground explo­si­on. In the mean­ti­me, we are told about 17 peop­le inju­red in this buil­ding, and none kil­led. As a pro­of, we are sup­po­sed to accept sta­ged pho­tos of Ukrai­ni­an blog­ger Mari­an­na Pod­gurs­ka­ya taken by AP strin­ger Evge­niy Malo­let­ka. By the way, web users alrea­dy dis­co­ve­r­ed that she role­plays dif­fe­rent women in dif­fe­rent photos.

We are appal­led by the vile and dir­ty cam­pai­gn bes­mirch­ing the Rus­si­an mili­ta­ry, who are accu­sed of attacking civil faci­li­ties on pur­po­se. You bla­me us for fakes and pro­pa­gan­da, but you igno­re an over­whel­ming amount of fakes, repli­ca­ted by Ukrai­ni­an and Wes­tern cen­ters for spe­cial psy­cho­lo­gi­cal ope­ra­ti­ons. At the same time, you keep shame­ful­ly silent about the fact that you almost cut off access to Rus­si­an sources of infor­ma­ti­on. Over the­se days, we have learnt much about the free­dom of speech which you belie­ve your­sel­ves to be cham­pions of.

src: click

Back to the OSCE report:

The Mis­si­on the­re­fo­re con­clu­des that the hos­pi­tal was des­troy­ed by a Rus­si­an attack. Based upon Rus­si­an explana­ti­ons, the attack must have been deli­be­ra­te. No effec­ti­ve warning was given and no time-limit set. This attack the­re­fo­re con­sti­tu­tes a clear vio­la­ti­on of IHL382 and tho­se respon­si­ble for it have com­mit­ted a war crime383.

[382 GC I, Arts 19, 21 and 35; AP I, Arts 12 and 13]
[383 ICC Sta­tu­te, Art. 8(2)(b)(ix).]

Hey, may­be I should start to work for the OSCE, I could wri­te half assed reports like that…

In addi­ti­on -- here is more that the OSCE report didnt capture.

Remem­ber the son of the mater­ni­ty ward employee who alle­ged­ly sta­ted, that it was emp­tied and taken over by ukrai­ni­an mili­ta­ry at the end of febru­a­ry 2022?

We mana­ged to find infor­ma­ti­on on tur­ning the Mariu­pol mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal into a mili­ta­ry base befo­re March 9 on the Rus­si­an news web­site Lenta.ru. Accord­ing to a March 8 publi­ca­ti­on, Igor, the son of one of the mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal staff, noted that peop­le in mili­ta­ry uni­forms, who were eit­her mem­bers of the Ukrai­ni­an armed for­ces or mem­bers of the Azov group, visi­ted the mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal in late Febru­a­ry. Accord­ing to Igor, the lat­ter “expel­led the staff from the mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal, clai­ming that they were going to turn it into a base”.

src: click

The­re the ori­gi­nal source is linked:

https://lenta.ru/articles/2022/03/08/mariupol/

Oh, and that site was cap­tu­red by archive.org on March 7th of 2022:

Sta­ting:

Behind the num­bers the­re are always human tra­ge­dies. A man walks near the tents whe­re refu­gees are recei­ved. He’s on edge and doesn’t let go of the pho­ne; you can see from his face that he’s been without sleep for several days now. His name is Igor, he spent about a day on the road to get to Bezy­men­noye from Cri­mea . He con­stant­ly approa­ches the mili­ta­ry, employees of the Minis­try of Emer­gen­cy Situa­tions, asking to see the lists to find out whe­ther his elder­ly par­ents were able to evacua­te from Mariu­pol. He tri­es to go with the sol­di­ers towards the front line, clo­ser to the city.

Igor said that in the last days of Febru­a­ry, peop­le in uni­form came to the mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal whe­re his mother works. He does not know whe­ther they were figh­ters of the Ukrai­ni­an Armed For­ces or the natio­na­list Azov bat­tali­on ( ban­ned in the Rus­si­an Fede­ra­ti­on ). The mili­ta­ry kno­cked down all the locks, disper­sed the mater­ni­ty hos­pi­tal staff, and set up firing points in the buil­ding so that, as they exp­lai­ned to the doc­tors, they would pre­pa­re the “Mariu­pol fort­ress” for defense. 

So if the­re was an infor­ma­ti­on ope­ra­ti­on befo­re­hand, the OSCE cer­tain­ly did not explo­re the alle­ged pro­of, and the rus­si­an infor­ma­ti­on ope­ra­ti­on is deci­ded­ly better.

Also - all that for three dead, 17 inju­red, and a hole in the ground.

Oh, and a CBS Front­li­ne Docu­men­ta­ry by Mstys­lav Cher­nov and Evge­niy Malo­let­ka, pre­mie­ring at the sundance film fes­ti­val in Novem­ber of 2023 of course.